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Thanks for the info OneWizard. I've been riding bikes for almost 30 years so I have a pretty good hand on setting the bike up. I have a set of heat demon grips here just waiting to be put on that I have left over from another project before. I already have peg lowering brackets, fuzeblock, gps mount, thermobob, givi side cases on order. Only problem is going to be finding time to tear it apart when I won't be wanting to ride it.
Me over 40 years of riding, just thought it appropriate to post this, funny thing is I missed something real important, that 2015 owners have come across. The Adjustable wind screen is to have a concave washer on each adjustment knob, plus 1 large flat washer, many of us have found 2 large flat washers, end result is knob vibrates loose and in one case the knob went missing on a ride. I am sure Eddie can fill you in on this.
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Gen 3 V-Stream shield; knobs don't stay tight

I've gone back-and-forth between the OEM windshield and my PUIG 5999 several times, and it's ALWAYS been a PITA! You end up needing another pair of hands (w/ REALLY long fingers!) to hold all the little bits that try to fall out once you've removed the four bolts, and two 'adjuster' knobs.

As I was doing it again yesterday, I decided to look into my SERVICE MANUAL (for a change......) to see what Kawi says to do. SAME thing I've been doing, so I started in on the job. Removed BOTH 'adjuster' knobs, started on the bolts, then a thought 'hit' me - what if I put a nut onto the bolts that the 'adjuster' knobs screw onto...?

I finger-tightened two, removed the four screws and VOILA! - NOTHING fell onto the floor! Changing windscreens went from a chore, to a FIVE minute pleasure. Here's a pic of the windscreen-mounts w/ the two nuts replacing the 'adjuster' knobs.





BTW - look CLOSELY at the washer in the first pic. It's SUPPOSED to be a "spring" washer OEM, but mine came w/ just a flat-washer, so I went to a bolt supply and got a proper "spring" washer, and installed it.

NOW I'm NOT looking all over my shop floor for pieces like that when they fell down removing my screens "by the book"!

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Gen 3 V-Stream shield; knobs don't stay tight

Lovin' my Nat'l Cycle V-Stream shield, but minor annoyance: the knobs loosen up quite often. That didn't happen with the OEM or the Puig shields I used previously. I imagine lock washers are the solution (or eat more Wheaties), but I was just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?

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Yes, many of us 2015 owners, I will try and find the Post, FastEddie posted.The concave washer is missing on many, including my 2015, I purchased some from a place called Spae Naur. After installing, and 14,000 KM later, no problems.
Here is one of his posts, he describes as a spring washer that was missing, same for me.
http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ghlight=washer
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Lovin' my Nat'l Cycle V-Stream shield, but minor annoyance: the knobs loosen up quite often. That didn't happen with the OEM or the Puig shields I used previously. I imagine lock washers are the solution (or eat more Wheaties), but I was just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?
And I thought I was the only one-and yes only with the National Cycle sport Tour shield no other windshields- including the National Cycle shorter Sport shield-so I put it where I wanted it and a drop of blue lock tight on each side-so far so good--oh I put a small drop of white paint on the adjuster knobs so I could tell if it moved..
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And I thought I was the only one-and yes only with the National Cycle sport Tour shield no other windshields- including the National Cycle shorter Sport shield-so I put it where I wanted it and a drop of blue lock tight on each side-so far so good--oh I put a small drop of white paint on the adjuster knobs so I could tell if it moved..
Weird, right? I like the threadlocker idea; might do that or add a lock washer. Thanks.

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OEM Two Height Adjustments Available

Thought I would re-post this.Several have commented about the extra height of the OEM shield, very easy to do, while your at it , make sure you have a concave/ spring washer under each knob, my bike and many others didn't have it, FastEddie alerted me about this, some have had the knob vibrate off the bike, no BS here, I don't think you would be impressed having your shield come at you
A photo of the height I use, as I don't like looking through the shield, especially with bug splatter


The raised , extra height available, giving about 1.5 inches above the slot opening

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Following-up, I installed some lock washers and the knobs haven't loosened a bit since.

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I noticed this too! Thought I was going crazy!!! Threadlocker seems like my answer....seeing as I already have some
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I noticed this too! Thought I was going crazy!!! Threadlocker seems like my answer....seeing as I already have some
really bad idea. The proper thing is a concave washer that seems to be missed by whoever is building these. I copied several posts, 1 was in the link above,I say using loctite / thread locker is a bad idea, because have a close look at that nut, it wouldn't take much to destroy it or damaged the track it is mounted in, just 2 extra threads of using 242 blue loctite you may never get it loose and may destroy the knob. A star lock washer is also a poor substitute, the concave washer allows for ambient temperature change and vibration.
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...the concave washer allows for ambient temperature change and vibration....
Also sometimes called a "spring", or "cup" washer.

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In the three years (15000 miles) that I had the 15' Versys I never had the knobs come loose. With the OEM shield or the GIVI.
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In the three years (15000 miles) that I had the 15' Versys I never had the knobs come loose. With the OEM shield or the GIVI.
You must be one of the lucky ones, here in Canada it is common to be missing that washer, my 2015 was missing it and I almost lost one knob, my contacting FastEddie enlightened me. I went to a specialty fastener place here and bought two sizes, SpaeNaur also referred to as Ed said disc spring or Belleville washer , get stainless steel https://spaenaur.com/wp-content/uplo...rs-D39-D64.pdf
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