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post #1 of 57 (permalink) Old 08-31-2016, 11:17 AM Thread Starter
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Riser Block for Front Seat Lift Mod

As some have noticed, the seat on the Versys is tilted forwards just a little bit too much. There are a few remedies for this, from a new seat cover, to using piles of washers to lift the front end of the stock seat. I have come up with what I think, is a low cost yet elegant solution: A 3D printed Riser Block!

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As you can see, it lifts the front of the seat up just a little bit (12mm) to give you a much more comfortable ride.

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I have about 600+ miles on my riser block and it has been holding up great.



If you or a friend has a 3D printer, you can download the files required to print your own riser block here: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1775953
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@steve1503 the block is designed to rest on the tank flange. This gives it more support to keep from bending or breaking.

@zirconx Yes, you will need longer bolts. The bolts on your machine are 25mm long, you will need 50mm long bolts. If there is enough demand, I *could* supply bolts, but would rather not. I am not trying to make a lot of money here, but I need to cover my costs.

Just added these notes to the original post.
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Measurements on my 2009 are: 60mm on center for the bolts, 5.4mm washer & rubber isolator thickness
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NOTE: This was designed for the 2015 Versys 650. I *think* it will fit older models, but I cant make any promises at this point. I have had several customers check dimensions and it looks like it should work. I will report back once we have a few in the field.

YES - same for the THREE Gens of V650s. (I took the "lift" off my '09 when the insurance came for it, and mounted it onto my '15. (I BELIEVE the length of bolts I bought are 45mm....)

BTW - I was NOT the guy that originated this mod. It was pretty much in general use when I joined the Forum and then got my '08, BIG RED, in September 2008.

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I just installed my riser block yesterday and rode into work this morning. Install was a piece of cake, 5 minutes tops. The improvement over the stock height is very noticeable and great! I have a 2009 Versys and I also ride with an Alaska Sheepskin buttpad https://alaskaleather.com/collection...pskin-buttpads. Overall a great mod and well worth it!
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I just installed my riser block yesterday and rode into work this morning. Install was a piece of cake, 5 minutes tops. The improvement over the stock height is very noticeable and great! I have a 2009 Versys and I also ride with an Alaska Sheepskin buttpad https://alaskaleather.com/collection...pskin-buttpads. Overall a great mod and well worth it!

Got mine also I agree !!!

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Received mine, but not installed yet. Looking forward to testing it out soon! I'm in the middle of moving this week, plus it is rainy, so it will have to wait until next week.
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Got mine on Monday, installed in maybe 5 minutes. As many have said, it does make a noticeable difference in rider comfort. I have the MotoWerks footpeg lowering blocks also.

I really like the fact that it is a purpose built piece.

Thanks again for making these available!

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I got mine, thanks, got the longer bolts and in it went.
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Got mine today.
Bought two bolts 45MM long and two flat washers from NAPA. Cost 65 cents. Took less than 5 min. to install.
Did a 30 mile test ride.
This mod will not make you feel like you just bought a custom seat. However it will make you much more comfortable. Best $14 I ever spent. I highly recommend this riser block.

Thanks Rawkstar 320 for producing a well made product, that every Versys owner needs.
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Got mine today.
Bought two bolts 45MM long and two flat washers from NAPA. Cost 65 cents. Took less than 5 min. to install.
Did a 30 mile test ride.
This mod will not make you feel like you just bought a custom seat. However it will make you much more comfortable. Best $14 I ever spent. I highly recommend this riser block.

Thanks Rawkstar 320 for producing a well made product, that every Versys owner needs.
I bought one as well and have yet to install. What is the dimesion of the bolts required? I know they are 45mm in length.
Appreciate the info and will plan on performing the install soon.
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I bought one as well and have yet to install. What is the dimesion of the bolts required? I know they are 45mm in length.
Appreciate the info and will plan on performing the install soon.
Don't know the dimensions. I carried one of the original bolts to NAPA and told them I need two like this, but 45MM long. Also 2 flat washers. If they don't have 45MM, 40MM will work.
After putting seat back on, the seat has some side to side play. If you use your hand and apply a little downward pressure on the seat, the play disappears. I found that the seat has two post on the rear section with concave slots, that rest on round frame tubes. With no weight on the seat the post are lifted slightly off the tube. just a little weight, and the post fit back on tubes. There is no movement or wobble in the seat while riding, and it is securely fastened to the bike. This is a mod that makes the Versys much more comfortable.
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Don't know the dimensions. I carried one of the original bolts to NAPA and told them I need two like this, but 45MM long. Also 2 flat washers. If they don't have 45MM, 40MM will work.
After putting seat back on, the seat has some side to side play. If you use your hand and apply a little downward pressure on the seat, the play disappears. I found that the seat has two post on the rear section with concave slots, that rest on round frame tubes. With no weight on the seat the post are lifted slightly off the tube. just a little weight, and the post fit back on tubes. There is no movement or wobble in the seat while riding, and it is securely fastened to the bike. This is a mod that makes the Versys much more comfortable.
Thanks for the info!
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The bolts are 6mm x 45mm flange head cap screws - the pair cost me $0.47 Canadian!

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NOTE: This was designed for the 2015 Versys 650. I *think* it will fit older models, but I cant make any promises at this point. I have had several customers check dimensions and it looks like it should work. I will report back once we have a few in the field.

YES - same for the THREE Gens of V650s. (I took the "lift" off my '09 when the insurance came for it, and mounted it onto my '15. (I BELIEVE the length of bolts I bought are 45mm....)

BTW - I was NOT the guy that originated this mod. It was pretty much in general use when I joined the Forum and then got my '08, BIG RED, in September 2008.
So like anything I analyzed the construction and support of the seat. This is what I found;
The biggest problem for me is my jewels seem to be getting in the way no matter what angle the seat is at*%$#@ yup expect some razzing --bring it on

So what I found is that front tab is for holding the seat down ,what supports the very front of the seat is two notched tabs on either side of the protruding tab. Wear marks on the seat from rubbing are evidence of support, the protruding tab that everyone is using to raise and support the seat is primarily for holding the seat down and locating it in the middle between the gas tank.

The washers shown on either side that are getting 45mm bolts added are in fact metal spacers, which allows the gas tank to float , these spacers provide a fixed solid support for holding the seat down, as I said previously.

So I decided to go ahead and try raising the seat 1/2" , as I had all the hardware on hand and some 1/2 GPO-3 fiberglass, ( won't rust , won't corrode, non conductive and very strong, but easy to shape with a good jig saw which I also have c/w cobalt saw blades.

So I spent several hours coming up with a plan, bolted everything together, well not that easy, as it took 3 tries until I had everything fitting and bolted together. Tried it out, as the plan is for a long ride tomorrow, luckily not far to go today to get back home and take it all apart , put back to original. I was about to call it a day when I thought I could at least post a picture of the support spacer I made, never did attach the upper one that was going to go below that tab and hold the lower spacer in place.The red fiberglass piece is the seat support, not the middle tab.

What I found was raising the front almost eliminated the forward slide, however the same pressure I experience in the OEM set up is there with it raised. So the real problem is the foam and shape of the foam, no raising or lowering is going to solve that for me. Glad it works for those that posted, my plan is to get new, higher density foam and redo my own seat. I have all the tools and a arrow air stapler & stainless staples.

So come winter and there is two feet of snow outside , I plan re-do the seat with better foam and a different shape then take a couple pictures as a how I did it, and post it.
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The risers do help alot. I agree that the seat needs to be flatter,a little wider, and better foam. I looked at the v-stroms today. the seats are wider and flatter, and look way more comfortable. however when riding the v-strom the seat was only slightly more comfortable. I think all the Jap bikes use the same foam, which is not very good, but cheaper for the manufacturer.
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I did the seat mod as described in this thread (http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...-seat-mod.html) along with raising the front of the seat gave me more comfort and allowed me to have longer ride times. Your mileage may vary but it worked for me on a 2016 650 versy lt. mully
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Got mine installed early this AM and told my wife I needed a real road test. She says "This would be a good day to get a truck load of soil for the new planter" . Sorry honey, no honey-do's today. Took a ride up to Sugar Pine Reservoir, about a 120 mile round trip.

Nice improvement, no sliding into the tank every time you hit the brakes or snapping the throttle closed. Good work Rawkstar 320!
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Received and installed yesterday in 3 minutes, 200 mile test ride, all good. Specific benefits noted by many, but the end to sliding forward is the most significant, which among several benefits results in less pressure on the giblets.

I would strongly suggest anyone 'on the fence' try this, the washer system or some other farkle of this type - easy to go back if you don't like it, and (with the washer method) an investment of about $4.

I did notice that the raised pan prevents the small foam block on the bottom of the pan from putting pressure on the battery (presumably to keep it from bouncing around), so I'm going to glue on some foam rubber to resolve that. I doubt it's life threatening, but for a bit of effort, no risk.

Thanks Rawkstar320, thanks Fasteddie and others for inventing/relaying the washer bit.
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Good on ya, Rawkstar...! I've advocated raising the front of the seat for the EIGHT years I've been on the forum, but YOUR solution is WAY-Y-Y prettier than MINE...!


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