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Tire wear, when to change?

I have 5k on my '15 650 and the rear tire is already squared off pretty good.

The center wear indicators floated away around the 3k mark after a long trip, but the sides are still good with deep tread.

I've ridden about 1000 miles going full blast so far so I know that really shreds my tires, but is this normal? I ride very hard, 0-100 all the time, mostly highway.

Do the better tires resist this kind of wear better? Are the stock tires considered to be good or just 'stock'? Really feels like the stock tire didn't have much tread on it to begin with. My friends 'nice' tire has way deeper tread.

Do I need to change this tire? Seems like I'd be doing it every other month or 3000 miles at this rate.
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Stock tires on my 09 were garbage...At the time i put a set of Michelin PR3's on it and got 10,000 miles out of that set. Had 7,000 miles on the second set of PR3's when i sold the bike and the tires were in good shape. They now have PR4's out and i'm on my second set of those on my FJR the first set i also got 10,000 miles out of.

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I got 5k on my original equip. tires. On the old Beemer i got 12,300 miles on a set of Michelin PR-2s, understand the PR-3s are better but they didn't have the needed 18" rear. But to get to the point, the michelins are expensive and both front and rear wore together, 350.00 to replace. I have good results with Shinko tires. With Verge and Ravens I get about 6k to 7k on the rear and 12k on he front. Set of Ravens cost around 175.00, just replacing the rear for that 12k goal. That comes to around 270.00 give or take. I change my own tires so I can't factor in shop costs. Ymmv.......
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You can get a set of T30s for around 200. I have them on a heavier bike, but they handle and wear well.
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once the center hits the wear bars I pull it and replace. if heading into winter or a trip then i'll replace earlier.
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I have 5k on my '15 650 and the rear tire is already squared off pretty good.

The center wear indicators floated away around the 3k mark after a long trip, but the sides are still good with deep tread.

I've ridden about 1000 miles going full blast so far so I know that really shreds my tires, but is this normal? I ride very hard, 0-100 all the time, mostly highway.

Do the better tires resist this kind of wear better? Are the stock tires considered to be good or just 'stock'? Really feels like the stock tire didn't have much tread on it to begin with. My friends 'nice' tire has way deeper tread.

Do I need to change this tire? Seems like I'd be doing it every other month or 3000 miles at this rate.
Mine looked like this when I changed it




Stock tyres are ... adequate. I like Michelin PR4's but they aint cheap.
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Mine looked like this when I changed it




Stock tyres are ... adequate. I like Michelin PR4's but they aint cheap.
Looks like you were due for a tire change

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I get good wear out of PR-2s and they are cheaper than the newer versions, but all tires are affected by a few factors. The most wear occurs in very hot weather, with gross vehicle weight, tire pressure, road surface and velocity affecting longevity. Some brands are more affected than others. Dual compound tires are the best wearing in my experience. A pure sport tire with a soft compound will always be the first to wear out.

It's all down to balancing handling qualities with acceptable wear, and that choice will be different for many riders. As we are all on the same bike, rider weight and inflation pressure is probably a deciding factor.
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So far I have to say that the original tires on my '15 will NOT give me the same mileage I got from the OEMs on my '08 and '09. BTW - they ARE different Dunlops from the early ones. At about 8,600 kms the rear's pretty much 'toast'....

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Ok, I wasn't sure if it was my riding style or not. I know I'm hard on them but I didn't expect needing new ones three months after I bought the bike.

I have a very wide and flat wear strip on the tire. All highway, not much cornering.

A set of great new tires for under $500? Sounds awesome. Tires are super important so I want the best, just like on cars.
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Ok, I wasn't sure if it was my riding style or not. I know I'm hard on them but I didn't expect needing new ones three months after I bought the bike.

I have a very wide and flat wear strip on the tire. All highway, not much cornering.

A set of great new tires for under $500? Sounds awesome. Tires are super important so I want the best, just like on cars.



www.jakewilson.com always has good rices on tires and www.RidersDiscount.com does also and they will match prices and hey are also a forum sponsor.... If you go with the PR4's you don't need the GT version those are for heavier bikes like my FJR..

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I have seen mention of the T30 here and other places. I am saving the information in a file for when I need new tires. Who is the maker on these of the T30?? Thx, Chuck Edit: Skip that, I found in another thread that they are Brigestones.

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Yep Bridgestone the T30 is the replacement for the BT023
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I haven't run a set for awhile, but I was VERY happy when I did run Continental ContiMotions (3 or 4 sets) on my Vs, and they're fairly inexpensive TOO!

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What amount of air pressure are you guys using in your Versys 650 tires?
I ask because, on our Valkyries, if we used the Honda recommended tire pressure, our bikes would "eat" the tires.
To correct this, we simply added 3 or more lbs of pressure to the OEM indicated pressure.
From then on, the tire mileage performance was a lot better.
Note: The maximum air pressure is indicated on the side of every tire. We figured that tire companies are more knowledgeable in that area than the motorcycle companies.

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33 front, 36 rear per the owner's manual.
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What amount of air pressure are you guys using in your Versys 650 tires?
I ask because, on our Valkyries, if we used the Honda recommended tire pressure, our bikes would "eat" the tires.
To correct this, we simply added 3 or more lbs of pressure to the OEM indicated pressure.
The unspoken factor here is gross vehicle weight. The weight of the rider plus whatever gear he is hauling is very pertinent. Let's be honest about his: the average North American is over-weight. Let me re-phrase that, we are fat and we haul too much crap around with us.

Kawasaki likely base the tire pressure recommendations upon the optimum handling characteristics of the tire plus the weight of the V and the weight of an average Japanese rider, not us fat-arsed North Americans hauling around every trinket he or she feels they must have with them at all times!

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32 psi front, 36 rear. If I'm hauling gear on a trip I will boost pressure about 2psi. I weigh about 195 lb geared up.

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Stockers were decent, but absolutely not confidence inspiring in the wet, or in hot corners... swapped them out around 4k, for PR4s... Difference in handling and stickiness is epic...
When they square off significantly they can start misbehaving in certain situations and turn radii... I'd think about new rubber...

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When they square off significantly they can start misbehaving in certain situations and turn radii... I'd think about new rubber...
Perfectly put.
When the transition to leaning in has a pronounced edge, a falling-in feeling, I admit it to myself: that tire is past it's best by-date.
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