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The ongoing LED projects

Well about a year ago my friend in California had the idea of making his own LED lights for motorcycles and mountain bikes. He offered a huge discount if I were to guinea pig his first design. Why not!

We talked for a few weeks and then he went into production. The first light he produced was this little guy. Somewhere in the realm of 1600-1800 lumens of soft (normal headlight type light) LEDs. The usual clash of super blue/high temp LEDs and normal headlight light actually worsens night time vision and really kills depth perception. The "soft" or "warm" LEDs don't make you cringe when you look at them. The color is warm and neutral like a regular headlight bulb. Which makes a huge difference to me.

This was the first gen light mounted to my fightered-SV650


Now currently mounted on my Versys:



The light itself has two output modes. Which the signal wires are tapped into the stock wiring harness. Low mode (running light) is somewhere around 200-300 lumens. High mode pops on with the stock high beam switch to the full 1600-1800 lumen. The spread is unreal! It is a massive flood that extends for nearly 100 meters, if not further. It is also a great asshole warning device. I have found it to be far more effective than my Stebel horn.

But after using it for a year, and being mounted a a bunch of different bikes it was lacking something. 1: It just doesn't have a good enough "spot" pattern, great flood, but not enough pinpoint light and 2: I want more light! Why not right?



So my friend and I talked more the last few months on a new design. He recently picked up a CNC machine and had a few ideas for a "Mega Light" with 6500-7000 actual lumens (not at the "crank") on high. With a ton of "spot" light added. I was speechless of course. My little 1600 lumen light is brighter than anything I've seen produced personally. Lets go for 7000?! Ok!

I gave him the go-ahead and 3 months later here is what we have!










I won't get my grubby little hands on it for a few more months, as I am in Colorado for the winter. But I will get some pictures of it up and running here shortly for us to drool over.


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Hope it WORKS for you! Looks GREAT...!

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Can't wait for an update on how it performs. Love all that machining work.
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Well he got it all finished up last night! Still waiting on a beam pattern shot, but he says it shoots farther than he anticipated! Yahoo!!!
He'll be using it for the rest of winter, or until I can get my hands back on my Versys which is in Maryland.

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Rear, the middle knob is a built in fuse. Easy to replace if need be.


Mounted on his BMW 650 Supermoto:

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That is pretty neet.

I got myself a LED light bar really cheap. 285mm wide 80 tall and 70 deep. 10x5W.
I was going to do exactly as above - mount it to the suspension tubes under the headlight of my Mk2 2011 Versys
then I measured the maximum suspension travel and found that if the front bottoms out it would hit my LED Light Bar

(i measured max travel = from top of axel hub to bottom of outer tube)

Unfortunately mine is all spread beam pattern.

Your LED Bar looks like it has Spot and Spread beams and might even have the outer LEDs pointing a little out as well. - NICE
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That is pretty neet.

I got myself a LED light bar really cheap. 285mm wide 80 tall and 70 deep. 10x5W.
I was going to do exactly as above - mount it to the suspension tubes under the headlight of my Mk2 2011 Versys
then I measured the maximum suspension travel and found that if the front bottoms out it would hit my LED Light Bar

(i measured max travel = from top of axel hub to bottom of outer tube)

Unfortunately mine is all spread beam pattern.

Your LED Bar looks like it has Spot and Spread beams and might even have the outer LEDs pointing a little out as well. - NICE

It is going to be close, but I think I will clear the fender with half an inch to spare. If I cannot mount it there, I'll fab up some sort of bracket and replace my current 3 LED set up above the headlight with this beauty.

This does have a good amount of "spot" the larger the lens in this case the more focused the spot. So the big lenses are the spots. He is testing it tonight, and hopefully we will all have pictures to look at tomorrow!

I did find out that one the "low" mode aka running light, only the top 3 small LED's light up. I was hoping for the whole bar, but the amount of wiring needed to accomplish that was too much to pack into the housing. Oh well!

I'm stoked to have 7k Lumen at 3k temp. Instead of 9k-10k lumen at the 10k bright blue temp. Ugly stuff.

Here's what I mean:



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Stock BMW 650x Headlight


LED light on high:


Same shutter speed and ISO used for both pictures.

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That video was great. Looks like white light in the 4k range. How much power does it use?
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The light on "high" draws 7.5 amps.
Roughly 7,000 Lumens with 3500k LED's

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So that's 90 watts on high. How is low power? are you in the 35W-55w area?
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So that's 90 watts on high. How is low power? are you in the 35W-55w area?
The low power is just running 3 of the small LED floods as spot lights, they are pretty dim. Nowhere near 35-55w.

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NICE set-up...!

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Mounted on his BMW 650 Supermoto:
What did you use to clamp to the suspension tubes?
Looks like simple P-Clamps.

I was looking at using Pro-Motion Tube clamps.

Also how much does the light bar weigh?
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What did you use to clamp to the suspension tubes?
Looks like simple P-Clamps.

I was looking at using Pro-Motion Tube clamps.

Also how much does the light bar weigh?
Yea, he has simple p clamps that are rubber coated. With alum arms he machined. The bar complete weighs around 1.75lbs with all the mounting hardware. Super light.

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Wow !

Very nice product !

Well executed !

Nice finish !

Insane amount of light (to much? ) !

Now, a price range for that very nice setup ???


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Price has still yet to be even thought about. This is his first prototype. Many revisions have to be made before he'll even think about selling them.

There are a ton of LED lights out there, buy few really fit our needs. This light won't work for all bikes, of course. But it would be great for the ADV and dual sport crowd that does a lot of back country or night riding.

As far as I know, there is not a light out there that boasts 7k Lumens with a spot/flood combo that can be purchased at our level.

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