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Chicken Strips

I have owned my Versys (new leftover 2012) for a week now and am really enjoying it. The break-in period was brief but I am keeping the revs down to under 7k. But, it is still a kick.

Although I am 68 years old, I do like spirited riding and I use my chicken strips as a guide as to how much harder I can go. I have had (and still do) sportbikes with Q2 tires that I had complete trust in. Also had a sit up style BMW boxer with BT023 tires that I trusted. I never quite get completely rid of the chicken strips but like to use them as a gauge.

Now, with the stock tires on my bike, how far down can I lean and still trust them to hold? I haven't been able to find any literature online about these tires. I've read that others drag the pegs but with different tires.

Any help?

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I'm 67, also with a '12 leftover (Black). I'm a little cautious in the cold and wet but I'm working to get rid of the chicken strips on the stock Dunlops. Can't waste tires. I have a set of Michelin Pilot Road 4s on the way and will change both when the back is gone, save what's left of the front as a back-up.
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64 here. The Dunlops you can't trust them, even dangerous in the front.
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I've had no issues with the stock tires. I used them until they were worn out. Just make sure they are warm before pushing it hard. I've ridden them hard enough to have orange peel on the tires.



Don't have one of the front tire.

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had no issues with stocks tyres and cut rear out in 8000km run BT 023's now and use them on both my bikes, my litre bike will be getting its 3rd BT 023 very very soon as on wear bars at 9500km on the Ninja 1000
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I think it's terrific that you guys are in your late 60s and still riding!...cheers.


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Thanks for the input guys. I too am happy to see the other older folks still riding in a spitited manner. Way to go!

Regarding riding on cold tires, do the tires really get warm(?) when it is only 50 degrees out?

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I don't need to be right on this, but my stock Dunlop tires gave me the worst contact feeling even far from the chicken strips. Sliding almost inpossible. Freeking! The front tire, under any temp condition, had a life of its own, very hard to correct when sliding away. I am not the only one with this opinion, based on different experiences. They are not good on bad slippery roads either.
Bottom line is, makes sure they are warm before pushing it and do not drift, nowhere.
Would be interesting to know if anyone had his chicken strips down while ridind the Dunlops.
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Thanks for the input guys. I too am happy to see the other older folks still riding in a spitited manner. Way to go!

Regarding riding on cold tires, do the tires really get warm(?) when it is only 50 degrees out?

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Yes! Attend a GP race and notice the tire warmers. Your tires will get warm(er) even in freezing weather. Always be cautious those first few miles you ride 'til the tires are warm.
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I've had no issues with the stock tires. I used them until they were worn out. Just make sure they are warm before pushing it hard. I've ridden them hard enough to have orange peel on the tires.



Don't have one of the front tire.
'Bout what I have around town. Goes to about half that when I hang around with the holigans on sportbikes.
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'Bout what I have around town. Goes to about half that when I hang around with the holigans on sportbikes.
I think tire profile has a lot to do with the size of the chicken strips.

I have no chicken strips on the rear tire on my Voyager 1700, and maybe a 1/8 inch on the rear Concours tire.

Of course that photo was taken when I took a break after riding 48 toward Cheaha mountain on a fully laden tour when the tires were still fairly new. I was pointing out the orange peel, not the chicken strips.

All this is to say that chicken strips are not necessarily a good measure of how you ride the bike. Some guys push the bike over in the curves while staying perpendicular to the road which requires more lean angle to navigate the curve than if you lean your body out into the turn, as well as different tires have different profiles.

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Thanks for the input guys. I too am happy to see the other older folks still riding in a spitited manner. Way to go!

Regarding riding on cold tires, do the tires really get warm(?) when it is only 50 degrees out?

Thanks again,
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Drop the pressure a couple lbs in colder weather. The flexing helps heat them up.

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Dropping the pressure a bit helps in any weather. Track tire pressure is usually around 30/30. Higher tire pressure is for better tire wear.
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My OEM Dunlop on it's last ride

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My stock tire I was able to get 4552 miles out of it first owner put 1482 miles on it and never leaned. I did not like the feeling of this tire. the PR3 where a huge improvement over these.
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...Now, with the stock tires on my bike, how far down can I lean and still trust them to hold? I haven't been able to find any literature online about these tires. I've read that others drag the pegs but with different tires....
I dragged the 'pegs (or the 'feelers' anyway) several times on the OEM Dunlops here in AZ.

Oh, BTW - I'm 70.

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...Regarding riding on cold tires, do the tires really get warm(?) when it is only 50 degrees out?...
Yes - just takes awhile.

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Thanks again to all responders.l This has been very interesting and certainly helpful to me. I will drop my tire pressures a couple pounds and keep tabs on wear patterns. The bike does feel good and encouraging to me, but I just want to be cautious.

If anything unexpected comes up, I will surely let you know.

Thanks again,
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My OEM Dunlop on it's last ride
That's serious orange peel. Heck, that is melting the tire. LOL! Good thing you didn't slide out on those sucky OEM tires.

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Here two pics of my OEM Dunlops in the FIRST 150 miles after I bought my '08. (SAME tires that I dragged my 'peg feelers with several times....)
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