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SS Brake Line Installed w/Pics

Can't find a whole lot of places that carry the SSLines. Found one and thought I'd just put up a quicky with links...

Front and Rear - 137.95
http://www.starcycle-usa.com/servlet/Detail?no=32243

Front Only - 88.95
http://www.starcycle-usa.com/servlet/Detail?no=23696

Rear only - 49.95
http://www.starcycle-usa.com/servlet/Detail?no=23697

Just placed an order and will let you know how it goes.

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I have SS front and back on my bike, and it makes the brakes very responsive with great feel, especially the front. The back... meh.

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From the little I've ridden the bike, I think the rear clampers are quite alright. I only ordered the front. I can't stand spongy brakes and don't even know why manufacturers still put rubber lines on bikes.

If bought in large quantity, the price of SS lines goes down dramatically and it's not like they make any extra money off those kinds of accessories in the aftermarket anyway. I'd happily pay an extra 40 or 50 bucks more for a bike for it to come equipped with SS lines.

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I totally agree with Red Herring! The SS lines really help the front, but the backs still don't have any feel.

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sweet deal. 3 lines, and a free set of brake pads.
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Was just curious, anyone have any issues with bleeding out the brakes? I was doing some mental math and the brake line that bends over the fender would seem like a great place for air bubbles to get stuck?


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I ended up running both lines from the master cylinder to the calipers and removed the over fender line. It was easier that way since the lines I got were both the same length.

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yea, so you have to hook up one end start the bleed and then when the crossover line is airless straight up in the air, then hook it up and keep bleeding and tapping, bending, bleeding, etc.

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Was just curious, anyone have any issues with bleeding out the brakes? I was doing some mental math and the brake line that bends over the fender would seem like a great place for air bubbles to get stuck?


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about brakes, is it possible to do stoppie with Versys ABS on rubber lines, and how do you think SSlines will help with it? (sorry for off-top)

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about brakes, is it possible to do stoppie with Versys ABS on rubber lines, and how do you think SSlines will help with it? (sorry for off-top)
It's not about stopping power, it's about technique. It's possible to stoppie a bike with ABS but if you can't do it with the stock setup, SS lines wont make a difference.

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I ended up running both lines from the master cylinder to the calipers and removed the over fender line. It was easier that way since the lines I got were both the same length.
I found out from Peter over at Starcycle (who's been very responsive so far) that the lines they sell are same setup as stock (routes over the fender). He says that making up a set of lines that both come straight from the master cylinder to the calipers is the same price but he needs the correct dimensions.

Questions is, do you recall if both lines you installed were the exact same length? I'm thinking they should be the same, or not more than 1 or 2 inches longer to the left caliper.

Also, getting the lines with black housing is 10bucks extra so I figured I'd give it a shot.

Will keep you guys posted. If they arrive I'll be sure to photo what they look like and report on quality n' such.

Thanks fellas!
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When I received them they were the same length which is what made me try the direct route for both of them. It would have been helpful if the left side had been about and inch longer.

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hey guys, be careful with Starcycle, I purchased some items in 2005 and had some issues with them coming through on promises.

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BZoid,

Thanks for your heads up. So far they've been okay so we'll see. WIll keep everyone posted!

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Gave Starcycles the following mesurements and got a response saying as of 02/05/09 it would take "7 to 10 days"... I hope that's to my door cuz' I hatez squishy grabby brakes!

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Line 1 - Master Cylinder (MC) to Right Caliper
Length: 41" MC Banjo: 0 deg Caliper Banjo: 5 deg

- Line 2 - Master Cylinder to Left Caliper
Length: 41" MC Banjo: 5 deg Caliper Banjo: 12 deg
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Arrived and Installed!!!

Alright folks, after some waiting for the lines to be custom chopped, they arrived and I've got them installed. The guys at Starcycle seem to have come through proper like on this one and made sure I knew what was going throughout the custom fabrication process and drop shipped them priority mail.

The bleeding took some time as quite a bit of air was caught at the top banjo which needed to be cracked and bled a few time. Total install time was about one hour of which most of that is lever pumping.

So far no leaks and the change in lever response is just what the doctor ordered ... no more grabby stopping.

Some people questioned whether or not 41" would work for both sides and I think it's works very nicely with plenty of room for bar risers. I've provided some pictures for you to see for yourself.

- Top Banjo - The off-set banjo had to go on the inside for correct banjo orientation at the caliper so yes that is intentional.



- Mid Section - After weaving the lines through the cable hoops (very easy) the lines simply follow the stock angles. You'll notice the line come to a point over the middle of the fender which is why I decided to choose identical lengths.



- Mid and Bottom Section - I after having removed all three of the stock line loops, I reused two to help keep the new lines tight. So far no noises and it's plain to see there's plenty of room for full fork travel.



- Bottom Section - Nothing special here but just wanted to say I recommend getting the 5 degree off-set on the bottom-right because it leaves a little extra space for the bleed nipples.



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Well initial impressions are good. I think some new pads and sand paper to the rotors would just about fix me up just right. I'll probably bleed the lines again after a couple of rides to make sure I clear as much air out of the lines as possible.

If anyone has been on the fence about getting a set of lines... don't be! If you've got the money spring for it... it's has a great impact on the overall riding experience and look sweet to boot!

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looks good, Carl! Thanks for the info and the report. I'll probably be springing for some new lines soon.
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