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LED headlight & Horn conversion??

Tried to search for these topics but still cant figure out how to search..yet.

I have a 2015 Versys 650 ABS

I am looking to add dual horns(I want freeway loud) and am wondering if I can do this without changing any wiring?
(Will 2 horns draw too much power on existing wiring?)
Has anyone done this mod and if so what parts would I need please? (With or without wiring mods)
Here are the ones I was thinking of using:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01...K6Y9EEQB&psc=1

Also I watched a youtube and this fellow installed H7 LED headlight bulbs.
Again I have the same question as above: Has anyone done this mod, and do I need to change any wiring?
Again here is a set of light bulbs I was looking at:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07...K6Y9EEQB&psc=1

Thank you very much all!
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You may wish to consider this kit. a 10db difference is a lot more than one would think.

https://www.amazon.ca/HELLA-00339980...FJYM3QJXYJB0WB

While you're choice would be an improvement, the above would be AN IMPROVEMENT. There should be a wiring diagram included in the above kit.

While it seems that your choice would work sort of OK without a relay the horns will likely be more loud with one. The bigger advantage to using the relay is protecting the switch from being exposed to the (likely) higher current draw of two horns vs one.

I'm using a pair of Freeway Blasters made by Fiamm mounted in the same location as the factory horn using a relay on my '15. In the 57k miles that I've ridden I've had to replace one of the horns as it got flooded crossing an active arroyo.

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For the LED light you will have to make a new clip for holding the bulb in place, the factory one will not work. I used a heavy gauge clothes hangar. Also some of the rubber boot covering will have to be modified. You have to cut a hole in it for the cooling unit to stick out.

There is an excellent howto thread on this forum complete with pics.

I used the Evitek brand of bulbs. There is an interest back story on the development of this brand(it took a while to get it right) over on the ADV forum. Not sure of availability or price in Kanuckville but I think I paid about US$70 for a pair a few years ago. IIRC, they were/are made in Taiwan, not PRC.

BTW, the low beam LED really cleaned up the lighting pattern compared to the stock bulb, much better cut off. I did not replace the stock high beam. Daytime running with both headlights fired up is quite noticeable what with the white/"yellow" look.

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Tried to search for these topics but still cant figure out how to search..yet.

I have a 2015 Versys 650 ABS

I am looking to add dual horns(I want freeway loud) and am wondering if I can do this without changing any wiring?
(Will 2 horns draw too much power on existing wiring?)
Has anyone done this mod and if so what parts would I need please? (With or without wiring mods)
Here are the ones I was thinking of using:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01...K6Y9EEQB&psc=1

Also I watched a youtube and this fellow installed H7 LED headlight bulbs.
Again I have the same question as above: Has anyone done this mod, and do I need to change any wiring?
Again here is a set of light bulbs I was looking at:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07...K6Y9EEQB&psc=1

Thank you very much all!
@saltspring
Search, you need two browsers open, for anything besides just viewing. Most help posts are in the stickies of member intro forum.
Here is a link, which happens to be at the bottom of the stickies of member intro forum.
https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...ng-forums.html

Both topics are covered in the How To forum with discussion in the member only forum;

https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...onversion.html

https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...ling-chid.html

https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...t-install.html

Many posts in the How To are labeled similar to a service manual i.e. , headlight is under H also LED headlight is under L LED headlight; LED signal Light etc. Wiring is under both fusing, fuse and relay . At the end of some is a link to a discussion thread in members only , as the How To would become very cluttered if discussions were added.
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i've had these before and they worked very well. https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-0074248...9315429&sr=8-6

this is a direct replacement https://www.amazon.com/PIAA-76501-50...315810&sr=8-10

this is what you really need https://www.amazon.com/FARBIN-Compre...315991&sr=8-32

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I've always used a Stebel Nautilus Air Horn on my bikes......

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On my Versys 1000 I separated the horn and you can see the trumpet part circled in red....

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I've always used a Stebel Nautilus Air Horn on my bikes....
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I installed my Denali SoundBomb split with the compressor under the left cowling and the horn under the headlight in front.
It's been there for a few years now, frequently used and loving it.
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Tried to search for these topics but still cant figure out how to search..yet.

I have a 2015 Versys 650 ABS

I am looking to add dual horns(I want freeway loud) and am wondering if I can do this without changing any wiring?
(Will 2 horns draw too much power on existing wiring?)
Has anyone done this mod and if so what parts would I need please? (With or without wiring mods)
Here are the ones I was thinking of using:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01...K6Y9EEQB&psc=1

Also I watched a youtube and this fellow installed H7 LED headlight bulbs.
Again I have the same question as above: Has anyone done this mod, and do I need to change any wiring?
Again here is a set of light bulbs I was looking at:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07...K6Y9EEQB&psc=1

Thank you very much all!
i did the led light yesterday. only the low beam as i wanted to make sure the rubber boot surgery was successful. 90 minute rain ride home today and it worked great. i got these a few months ago on sale https://headlightrevolution.com/v-4-...ghts-h7-bulbs/
there are several brands on amazon that look just like these for considerably less. these are waterproof so i have the heatsink and cooling fan outside the boot. i mounted the power module thingy to the framework under the fairing behind the light using cable ties. i wrapped the bar with a piece of nitrile glove and electrical tape so the ties had something to grip and not slide around. really nice, clean light and cutoff. will do the high beam next week maybe.

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Thank you!!!
I ordered some fanless LED bulbs and they are not here, also ordered the denali split air horn, with harness, and will be installing all these within the next month or 2.
Appreciate everyones help and input on this site! AWESOME!!
THANK YOU FROM BC CANADA!
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Here are a couple of threads I posted on adding another horn with the stock one.

I am very pleased with the outcome. Definitely the cheapest and easiest to install.

Someone may caution you of drawing too many amps on the horn circuit running 2 horns. Sure that could be the case but how long do you hold the horn button? I usually just give a quick blast or two and never have experienced any problems at all. Plus this is the 2nd bike I have done this on.

https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...ual-horns.html


Oops I guess I should have read all of his last reply. Sounds like a done deal.

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Thank you!!!
I ordered some fanless LED bulbs and they are not here, also ordered the denali split air horn, with harness, and will be installing all these within the next month or 2.
Appreciate everyones help and input on this site! AWESOME!!
THANK YOU FROM BC CANADA!
Regards to air horn , my mounting is in this thread, be aware, you need a minimum 12 gauge wire, a separate relay with 20 amp fuse, [also I created a ground point using 10 gauge wire, my heated grips, my Denali Horn and my auxiliary outlets were all within 6 inches of the throttle position sensor, so that is my distribution point, if interested I can find the post]the OEM wiring is used to operate the relay, be aware the horn wiring positive wire is live with the key on ( the horn button is the ground), both wires from the OEM horn need to go to terminal #85 & #86 https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...ns-2015-a.html

https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...t-install.html

A good thread on relays
https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...5-earlier.html

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Tried to search for these topics but still cant figure out how to search..yet.

I have a 2015 Versys 650 ABS

I am looking to add dual horns(I want freeway loud) and am wondering if I can do this without changing any wiring?
(Will 2 horns draw too much power on existing wiring?)
Has anyone done this mod and if so what parts would I need please? (With or without wiring mods)
Here are the ones I was thinking of using:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01...K6Y9EEQB&psc=1

Also I watched a youtube and this fellow installed H7 LED headlight bulbs.
Again I have the same question as above: Has anyone done this mod, and do I need to change any wiring?
Again here is a set of light bulbs I was looking at:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07...K6Y9EEQB&psc=1

Thank you very much all!
Hello saltspring.

I was in the same dilemma as you with every single bike that I purchased. The horn used to be too tinny for use on highways.

With the 2019 Versys, the stock head lights AND the horn are just too weak. This is my solution.

First the horn

I don't know about Canada but here in India, it is illegal to fit, on private, non-commercial vehicles, the kind of horn powered by a fan as shown here. Only trucks and locomotive engines may have it:
https://www.amazon.com/FARBIN-Compre...315991&sr=8-32

So, the legal way out is to fit an electric diaphragm based horn set that has trumpets to amplify and channelise the sound. This particular set or its FIAM equivalent will available in Canada.

https://www.amazon.in/Bosch-F002H100...0446689&sr=8-2

I have fitted the Bosch on my 2019 model and it works beautifully. Just the right amount of volume and timbre to convey the polite but insistent "I am riding much faster than you so please let me through" sentiment. Plus the cops are happy. I have added a toggle switch to select between the stock small horn and the Bosch wind tone set so that in the city, people don't get irritated with the Bosch blast.

On the relay, the stock horn power pins go into 86 and 85 and the others are as per the diagram.

If you want a toggle between the stock and new horn, I'll post my diagram later. Else, this will work to activate the new horn from the stock horn switch.

Next, headlamp and city lamp LED lights

I watched lots of videos and the one that made sense was where the chap pointed out that the location of the LED element on the LED bulb should replicate the placement of the filament in the stock halogen bulb as far as possible.

I then hunted a lot... offline as well as online and got this set of H7 bulbs. They come with an adaptor which seats in the reflector body. One then inserts the bulb into the adaptor and rotates it clockwise to lock it. The retaining spring needs to be adjusted a bit with needle nose pliers and then, it grips the cooling fins very well. The rubber cup needs to be cut out to make way for the cooling fan's outlet of hot air..VERY IMPORTANT The LED elements plane when seated into the base must be parallel to the ground, that is, firing towards the left and right side of the reflector and NOT up and down. Else, the result will be just a hazy patch of light.

The result was an increase in range and brightness by at least 3 times if not more. It is impossible to depict the benefit or to compare between the stock halogen and the retroftted LED bulbs in a photo or a video; one has to experience it on ground and in the dark to realise just how really useless the stock headlamp bulbs are.

While I was at it (removing the fairings is a major PITA), I replaced the stock halogen city light bulbs with Osram direct fit LEDs.

These were the main headlight bulbs:
https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And the city light one:
https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Lastly, the aux LED lights

Gold Runway, a Chinese brand makes excellent 40 and 50 watt LED lights. But in India, the price of both was just too high for me - while the 40 was available via Amazon, the 50 had to imported thru Aliaexpress with a hefty 25.8% import duty.

I wanted spot beams - the new LEDs in the headlamp cluster give a good spread beam so spots were needed for longer reach.

So, I shamelessly settled on a copy like this:
https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You should get equivalent stuff in Canada. But if you can afford it, get the Gold Runway set without a second thought. Specially the 50 watt version.

In my case, I will need to grind out a small portion of the mounting plate to enable a greater angle of depression so as to not blind oncoming traffic.

I installed a Mad Dog harness and Mad Dog switch to control the lights. The harness runs thru the ignition circuit so there is no direct connection. Also, a relay is included in the harness so the main fuzes are protected.

The switch is mounted on the RHS RVM stalk and is easy to activate with a sideways thumb push.

saltspring, trust me when I say that when you are done with this, you can ride at 120 kmph on the highway without the slightest worry at all.
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