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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-23-2019, 11:30 PM Thread Starter
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Ninja 650 compatibility

I have my bike set up the way I'd like it to run, and it's great. ECU flashed, Yoshi exhaust, BMC Air filter, etc. However, if I wanted to get more power, would I be able to swap cam shafts, valves, etc. from a Ninja 650 into my Versys?

I know some people may say "Well if you're just going to swap parts, why didn't you buy a Ninja 650?" I simply like the Versys over the Ninja's looks. Plus, in the quest to have a unique versys 650, I'm wanting it to perform as good as it'll eventually look.
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A unique quest , if you are willing to go the distance for the rebuild. Swapping Cam, valves will require engine mapping , which I am sure you have thought of. Anyway , good Luck and there some members here who have done similar job of building bikes.
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Or just buy a Ninja 650 engine, COMPLETE, w/ the computor, and change engines...!
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Late model used ninja 650 engines range from about $700 to $1,000. The computers range from about $50 to $100. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...puter&_sacat=0
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Or just buy a Ninja 650 engine, COMPLETE, w/ the computor, and change engines...!
I was thinking about doing this as well actually. Would you (Or anyone else) know if the mounts are the same?
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Is there much to gain at all? IIRC the Ninja engines had like 4 extra BHP, and the torque came up later in the rev range.
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Is there much to gain at all? IIRC the Ninja engines had like 4 extra BHP, and the torque came up later in the rev range.
Precisely.

The versys engine is tunned for a better mid range.

With all the cost and trouble involved I would sell the versys and buy a used different bike

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Yeah, since it's effectively the same engine, you won't get something out of nothing - you can trade off a bit of the mid range for a bit of the top range, but I doubt the change will even be noticeable. We're talking single-digit percents I think. And it's a trade-off, not a general improvement. Without adding displacement or forced induction, there's only so much you can do.

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Without adding displacement or forced induction, there's only so much you can do.
I was considering various things, this whole time matter fact. One of the things I've had in mind is when the bike reaches 40k miles, rebuild the engine if needed, and start looking into a turbo system. Then I'd buy a newer engine with lower mileage, beef up the internals, and then put it in the Versys. Yes, I am aware it'll be very expensive and I may as well get a new bike, but it's a project I'm willing to work on. I'm also going to be buying a second bike, possibly a Grom.

There's several perks this would have for me: 1 More power. 2. The thrill of a "new" bike due to the power increase. 3. A more unique bike.
Yes I am aware of the downsides of a turbo, but when it comes to that, I'm not worried - I'll sort it all out.

I don't post that much here, but I'm in the process of having a very unique V-650. I'm sporting it out, which to some may be blasphemy for a dual sport / adv bike, but none-the-less, it's happening and coming well. (I can supply pictures after I clean/wax today. I'm a very proud owner though, I get several compliments whenever I go out, which is what's pushing me to just continue modding the bike.
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...(I can supply pictures after I clean/wax today. I'm a very proud owner though, I get several compliments whenever I go out, which is what's pushing me to just continue modding the bike.)....
Supply away...!

Love to see what you've done.
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Supply away...!

Love to see what you've done.
I'll have to wait till tomorrow... I got some new levers in yesterday, and it's currently raining where I live. I'll make a new post as well.
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Supply away...!

Love to see what you've done.
Forget what I said, sun came out. https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...ml#post1632435
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