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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 03-28-2012, 03:22 PM Thread Starter
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Need power commander???

Im debating wether or not to get a full exhaust system for my 09. Will i need a power commander if i get one? Which is the best header for the versys? Any info appreciated.
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I recently bought a Yoshi slip on and everyone including Yoshi says no I don't need it. I guess it depends on which set of pipes you buy.
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I already have a slip on .I was wondering if I needed 1 for a full exhaust including the header.
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Yeah, I figured that. What pipes are you considering? It may be a good idea since I saw a couple posts this week where several guys have had cracks show up in the stock header pipes. (possible customers for your stock pipes when your done with them..)
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There are only two full exhaust I know of for versys. Arrow and Leo Vince and I have not seen any for sale in awhile so I am not sure you can get a full exhaust
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No need for a Power Commander with my Muzzy header with custom Magnaflow/Yoshimura silencer, Pipercross air filter, etc... It'll still be progressively too rich from mid to high rpm. stock or not. Rotating the main throttle sensor counterclockwise just a tad adds more fuel at low rpm where it's needed most, especially near 2800 rpm.
Also, sealing off the PAIR valve reduces backfiring tendency upon engine braking.
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I think that PC-V is not for everyone, you must enjoy using it, I think that's the point. I like to try different maps and see how the bike respond... accept the trims often, read something about fuel tables, AFR, etc. I think is one more think you can add to your bike to help get more HP's. An aftermarket exhaust is fine, hi-flow air filter too, good TPS tuning a must (and all Invader recommendations), PC-V with AutoTube good too... just my opinion...

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BTW... you can check this:
http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=2813.0
It's a very good explanation about the Power Commander and AutoTune... read it!

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BTW...Does anybody can explain to me he difference between CLOSE and OPEN loop in the AFR map?

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In closed loop, wideband oxygen (A/F) sensor input is used to make on-the-fly fuel corrections, according to your setting (~13:1). In open loop, wideband oxygen (A/F) sensor input is not used to make changes to your map's fuel correction settings.
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Thank you Invader... One more question, If you see a map, Is there any visible area that may be recognized as the Close Loop area? Or there is not such thing?

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yes get the pcV with autotune if you want any kind of fuel economy...
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