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Versys crash protection

I realise there are many threads on this topic...and it has been somewhat mind-numbing sorting through it all.

I went down on my v last august and incurred 4K worth of damage...well she's all fixed up and looks new again so now with sub zero temps and a few feet of snow on the ground I'm planning for the spring.

I just ordered some crash bars(I went with the H & B's) and am now trying to figure out which frame sliders/hand protection to get. Any opinions/links would be greatly appreciated.

Also...will these 3 add ons sufficiently protect my v or are there any others that would help?


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Crash protection

From what I've read you should skip on the frame sliders (unless their attached to your crash bars) http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ead.php?t=4139 (read post 14) Invest on some good handguards with a aluminum backbone. The Barkbuster S4 Storm handguards seem to be a good choice and can be ordered readily online. Be sure you get the fitting kit (BSC-STD) & bar end weights (B56) unless you want to fab your own mounts.

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chuck...thanks for your suggestion...I wasn't sure if I really needed the sliders.
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I always think if HB and SW Motech joined forces, we would have got the ultimate engine crash guard.
Yes, like Chuck said handguards are a good investment.

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Avoid frame sliders which stick out. If you need frame sliders then you need to find something that is flushed with the body/frame work.

Best HB bars and a set of hand guard.

Anyway the Versys is more of a Naked bike and most frame slides are used on full flaring bikes-IMHO

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Frame sliders should be mounted at the engine mounting bolts as that is the most sturdy area. Otherwise the mushroom catches on something and rips away at whatever you attached it to.
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I always think if HB and SW Motech joined forces, we would have got the ultimate engine crash guard.
Yes, like Chuck said handguards are a good investment.
I could not agree more, Why hasn't one of the big companies noticed that the crash bars for the Versys are good but still inadequate??? I suspect that in the future there will be more options for crash bars than we have now, I'm even convinced that if I had the materials and welder knowledge that I could create something rock solid to protect my precious Vee.

http://holan.pl/en/product/24/181/19...LC_4_Adventure

Some dont like the big gnarly bars like the ones on the 1200 GSA but I would love to see something like that for the Vee.
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I went with the Powermadd guards. Fitting was fairly straightforward and took about 15 minutes per side. Very good protection against the wind with removable wings and an aluminum backbone. Had to abandon the bar ends, but I have felt no added vibration.

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My "Zetas" and "H-B" guards protected my '08 in a 15 to 20 mph 'low-side'.

(However, I broke a rib.)

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Although I would have recommended the SW-Motech bars, that's irrelevant at this point.

I've attached pics of what I did with the frame sliders I used prior to getting my crash bars. You could do the same sort of thing with some sort of rigidly mounted (non-folding) peg.

The extension beyond the crash bars keeps the bike that much farther off the ground, making it that much easier to pick up, and provides that much more space between the bike and the ground - leaving more space for your leg, should it get could between in a drop/fall. They also allow you to lift the front of the bike with a "peg-leg."

I've dropped my bike on rocks and on pavement due to a combination of both rough conditions, heavy load, and ass-headed drivers, and I can say this set-up definitely kept me from hurting my lower leg and aided in making the bike easier to pick up.

Aslo, I completely agree on the handguards - a must. Had I not had those in the aforementioned instances, I would have had broken levers.

Rear swing arm spools can also be handy in providing another buffer between your bike and the ground.

Oh, and hard pannier cases will help keep the bike off the ground as well

Hope something in there helps.
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ed...thanks for the advise...why do you recommend the sw motech over the h/b? I can probably change my order as the h/b are out of stock.

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I crash tested my H&B a couple of years ago and it cost me new can of black paint to spray the bar that saved the bike. I had zero damage to the bike and a bit of damage to my knee.

Clever thing about the H&B and not sure if its intentional or not, but they give a bit when you fall, this helps absorb some of the impact.

I had to straighten my bars out about 3/4", but no big deal.

Vice grips were to rest my leg on after the crash, ED strapped it up so I couldn't bend it and get it on the regular peg.

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Try these guys i got my h/b's in 9 days while everyone else was waiting about 6 weeks.They have the best price and when i got mine free shipping. the have hepco beckers and sw-motech. i love my h/b's very sturdy good looks and no vibration.


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ha...that's where I ordered mine from...looks like 6 week wait...whereas they have the sw motech in stock...I may just switch...even though there's no rush...and my barkbusters are backordered for 1 month as well...just not cycle season I guess?
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ha...that's where I ordered mine from...looks like 6 week wait...whereas they have the sw motech in stock...I may just switch...even though there's no rush...and my barkbusters are backordered for 1 month as well...just not cycle season I guess?
If theres no rush i'd wait for the H/B's....but thats me

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What part of MN are you at pete. my hapkido instructor is from s.st.paul nice area been there in the spring and fall won't go there in the winter.too damn cold

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+1 to JDrocks comment. I've had both and imho motecs are a much stronger unit.
Barkbusters have saved my hands on a couple of occasions too
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you guys are a stitch...it seems split pretty evenly between hb/sw motech...I changed to sw motech because they're in stock...not that I'll be using my v anytime soon!!!!!!

I'm in st paul, mn as well...and it is very cold today!!!
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Well, it looks like the two most important people in the crashbar preferenece debate have spoken up. sambamboo and jdrocks have both have what I would classify as "very severe" crashes, while using SW-Motechs (jdrocks) and HBs (sambamboo). If you search through the forum, you can see pics and narration of the above incidents and decide for yourself.

Yes, the HBs can deform, I don't consider that a good thing. This characteristic resulted in damage to sambamboo's radiator.

What appears to be the most common reason folks choose the HBs is "radiator protection." I consider this a bit of a falsehood, and not simply because of sambamboo's experience. In dropping/laying a bike on the ground, the two primary factors affecting how close the the central mass of the bike will get to the ground are the width of the handlebars and the lowest and most extensive lateral projection on the frame. So, the SWMs project quite far laterally, at a point fairly low on the frame. This, in conjunction with the wide bars on the V keep the rad pretty far away from most stuff when the bike is "down."

Additionally, from my experience, and from what I've gleaned over the last couple of years, the clutch and stator covers are/should be of greater concern, as they are positioned at lower points on the bike and more exposed to damage when the bike is "down" on uneven terrain. I dropped my bike on some fairly good sized rocks this past summer, and had I not had SWMs, I would have cracked my clutch cover open - both times I dropped it, the rocks were prevented from smacking the clutch cover by the SWMs.

I also think the SWMs are better positioned for mounting foot begs.

See posts 47 and 49 where an unprotected stator cover was cracked. BTW, Sanjoh is a member of this forum as well.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...i+build&page=4

Sorry for the delayed response - been busy. Hope that provides some clarity on the basis of my statement - beyond blind/arbitrary "preference."

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Good info ednukey, thanks.

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