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Hi all,

As you can see I am a new member. I have negotiated what I feel is a good price for a 2015 650 ABS LT ($7500) new out the door. I have a couple of questions before I seal the deal tomorrow or Saturday.

First, is that a good price, new (0.3 miles). I will want this bike to do about 70/20 pavement. Having said that, what tires should be mounted on the bike before I take possession.

Second, what are the known issues of the 2015 bike? and if there are any issues with ECU programming what version do I want on the bike before I take delivery>

Third, I am short. 5'8" with a 30" inseam. Will the ergonomics suite me? If not, what should I do. Lowering links? peg relocators? Bar risers?

I require heated grips and I use a heated vest. What is the excess OEM stator output if any and do I need to change the regulator to a Mosfet unit?

Lastly, I have read a LOT of positive things about this bike. Enlighten me, what are the things you like least about this bike?

Thanks in advance
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Hi all,

As you can see I am a new member. I have negotiated what I feel is a good price for a 2015 650 ABS LT ($7500) new out the door. I have a couple of questions before I seal the deal tomorrow or Saturday.

First, is that a good price, new (0.3 miles). I will want this bike to do about 70/20 pavement. Having said that, what tires should be mounted on the bike before I take possession.

Second, what are the known issues of the 2015 bike? and if there are any issues with ECU programming what version do I want on the bike before I take delivery>

Third, I am short. 5'8" with a 30" inseam. Will the ergonomics suite me? If not, what should I do. Lowering links? peg relocators? Bar risers?

I require heated grips and I use a heated vest. What is the excess OEM stator output if any and do I need to change the regulator to a Mosfet unit?

Lastly, I have read a LOT of positive things about this bike. Enlighten me, what are the things you like least about this bike?

Thanks in advance
I would leave the stock tires on it. They aren't that great in the dirt, but if you avoid mud and sand, and stay on dirt roads, they should do fine.

I have a new 2015 and I have no issues with the way the bike performs completely stock.

The pegs should suit you just fine, you might want to consider lowering links.

I installed oxford heated grips and I am extremely satisfied with the way they perform. I would not worry about the charging system, many others have used heated clothing and grips without issue. I might be wary of using heated grips, high beams and heated clothing continuously for long periods of time. For me, this is an unlikely scenario.

The only thing I dislike is that there is no provision for a factory center stand. Hepco Becker and SW Motech both make aftermarket ones, though. I have a Hepco Becker stand on order.
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Hi all,

As you can see I am a new member. I have negotiated what I feel is a good price for a 2015 650 ABS LT ($7500) new out the door. I have a couple of questions before I seal the deal tomorrow or Saturday.

First, is that a good price, new (0.3 miles). I will want this bike to do about 70/20 pavement. Having said that, what tires should be mounted on the bike before I take possession.

Second, what are the known issues of the 2015 bike? and if there are any issues with ECU programming what version do I want on the bike before I take delivery>

Third, I am short. 5'8" with a 30" inseam. Will the ergonomics suite me? If not, what should I do. Lowering links? peg relocators? Bar risers?

I require heated grips and I use a heated vest. What is the excess OEM stator output if any and do I need to change the regulator to a Mosfet unit?

Lastly, I have read a LOT of positive things about this bike. Enlighten me, what are the things you like least about this bike?

Thanks in advance
It's a very good price if you consider it is lower than the MSRP and includes dealer and shipping charges which are not part of the MSRP

You have more than enough power for a heated jacket liner and heated grips. Suggest avoiding the Kawasaki brand heated grips and going aftermarket which will be better and cheaper

You might want to consider Speedy's lowering kit that will lower the bike an inch. I would ride it first to see.

Versys is a great "all rounder". Arguably the best "all rounder in it's size/price range. A bike you can commute comfortably on and is agile in city traffic, a fun sport riding bike for weekend rides on B roads, and a bike you can do light touring on in relative comfort. What it is not though, IMO, is an off road bike, at least the way it comes from the factory. And why would you want to convert a new bike to do something it was not originally designed to? The muffler is mounted under the engine where it can get easily knocked off, the rims are the wrong size to take off road tires and fragile alloy, not strong and spoked. The front tire is a wide 17" ideal for pavement but not a dirt oriented narrow 21". I think you want something like a KTM 690 for 30/70 off road riding.

I find the pit spool stand easier to use than a kickstand for working on the bike as the bike is more secure on it.
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It's a very good price if you consider it is lower than the MSRP and includes dealer and shipping charges which are not part of the MSRP

You have more than enough power for a heated jacket liner and heated grips. Suggest avoiding the Kawasaki brand heated grips and going aftermarket which will be better and cheaper

You might want to consider Speedy's lowering kit that will lower the bike an inch. I would ride it first to see.

Versys is a great "all rounder". Arguably the best "all rounder in it's size/price range. A bike you can commute comfortably on and is agile in city traffic, a fun sport riding bike for weekend rides on B roads, and a bike you can do light touring on in relative comfort. What it is not though, IMO, is an off road bike, at least the way it comes from the factory. And why would you want to convert a new bike to do something it was not originally designed to? The muffler is mounted under the engine where it can get easily knocked off, the rims are the wrong size to take off road tires and fragile alloy, not strong and spoked. The front tire is a wide 17" ideal for pavement but not a dirt oriented narrow 21". I think you want something like a KTM 690 for 30/70 off road riding.

I find the pit spool stand easier to use than a kickstand for working on the bike as the bike is more secure on it.

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Thanks all, I knew going in that the bike was not a good off tarmac bike but I still will want to do some connector roads with it and these are gravel around here.

Good advice on the heated grips, aftermarket it is. I generally don't make a habit of riding under 40F (I'm a cold weather woosey these days) but when I need heat I use grips and a vest.

As for lowering, I can get the balls of my feet on the ground without a lowering link but I think I will opt for the lowering link as most of my drops have been static drops from stopping above a hole and such. So the closer to the ground I am the better. I may opt for a different seat as well as time goes on.

I am going at 1pm today and try to finish putting this deal together. My wife is quick to point out that this will be my 23rd bike since we've been married. What can I say? I'm a total bike whore.

Thanks for the quick advice.
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I have AME heated grips they work great and no big ugly controller on the handlebars. They also have individual controls and auto turn off so no flat battery.
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I will want this bike to do about 70/20 pavement.
and what do you want the bike to do for the extra 10% ??

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Metzler Tourence Next, Pirelli Scorpion, and I think Avon all make adv. tires for the Versys. The entire catalogue of sport and sport touring tires fit it.
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120/70-17 front & 160/60-17 rear
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and what do you want the bike to do for the extra 10% ??

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I think the other 10% of the time I will put in the living room, get a glass and some good scotch and just stare at it.
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Metzler Tourence Next, Pirelli Scorpion, and I think Avon all make adv. tires for the Versys. The entire catalogue of sport and sport touring tires fit it.
Thanks, I bought the Versys today. I pick it up tomorrow. I will likely go with Kendas of some sort as they are cheap and last a decent amount of time. For now the stockers will work until my wife isn't around....LOL.
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120/70-17 front & 160/60-17 rear
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Next question, what brand aftermarket center stand should I be looking at and also what aftermarket windscreen. I found the stock windscreen fairly inadequate during my test drive. It's ok around town but highway speeds buffet the crap out of my short butt.
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Thanks, I bought the Versys today. I pick it up tomorrow. I will likely go with Kendas of some sort as they are cheap and last a decent amount of time. For now the stockers will work until my wife isn't around....LOL.
Don't worry my stock rear tire on my 2015 only lasted 2700 miles before cord started to show. You will have your new tires before you know it.
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Don't worry my stock rear tire on my 2015 only lasted 2700 miles before cord started to show. You will have your new tires before you know it.
Congrats on ththe bike!
Thank you. I got the last 2015 ABS/LT my local dealer had. I looked it over fairly well during the test ride. I noticed the right and left luggage rattled a bit. I really couldn't determine a viable fix since the rear of the boxes where they slide in seem to be the source of the rattle.

I will have to pursue that rather quick or my OCD self will go bonkers until I do.
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Congrats on your new bike! I think you'll be pleased.

I'd recommend giving it a bit before trying too hard to lower it - I've only an inch or so on you (5'9" & 31" inseam) and I've found it very manageable stock.

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Congrats on your new bike! I think you'll be pleased.

I'd recommend giving it a bit before trying too hard to lower it - I've only an inch or so on you (5'9" & 31" inseam) and I've found it very manageable stock.

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Agreed, but I will have to think about it. Right now I am on the balls of my feet. I think I will give the suspension time wear in a bit first. Good advice, thanks.
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2014 Versys. 5' 7". 29" inseam. One foot flat or toes down on both sides. No problem either way. Just don't let it tip too far
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Thank you. I got the last 2015 ABS/LT my local dealer had. I looked it over fairly well during the test ride. I noticed the right and left luggage rattled a bit. I really couldn't determine a viable fix since the rear of the boxes where they slide in seem to be the source of the rattle.

I will have to pursue that rather quick or my OCD self will go bonkers until I do.
Mine do not rattle. Does it have the rubber pads on the frame?
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2014 Versys. 5' 7". 29" inseam. One foot flat or toes down on both sides. No problem either way. Just don't let it tip too far
I have a 30" inseam with robust (read -fat) thighs and I have difficulty doing that. I know on other new bikes I have purchased that once the suspension was worn in the entire bike sat lower. I am hoping that is the case with this one or Speedy, here I comr.

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Mine do not rattle. Does it have the rubber pads on the frame?
Yes, the rubber wedges are in place. The source of the rattle seems to be where the back portion of the boxes slide in. Of course, If I load some camping equipment and clothing and ride that way the noise should go away from weight. Wow! I think I just solved the problem.
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