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Anyone want *MORE* teeth on their rear sprocket?

I hear a lot about people going down to 44 or 43T rear sprockets for increased top speeds, lower RPM at higher speeds, more use of each gear etc. But I think I'd want it to be the opposite - I want more POWER on each gear. I'd like the option to raise the front wheel by twisting the throttle in basically ANY gear if I wanted to - just not just in the 1st gear. Can you get rear sprockets with even more teeth than the stock 46?

Am I nuts? Anyone else feel this way? I love the stock torque in first gear. Am I riding the V at too high RPMs for it's own good? (Usually between 6k-9K). I rarely ride at really high top speeds because of the insane traffic around where I live (WA), so if anything I'd like more torque in each gear than anything so I can zip between lanes and really accelerate an whatever gear I'm in.

Any insights/ideas/comments welcome. Thanks!

(Oops - realized this should have been posted in "Modifications - Performance") how does one move it?

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I can see some folks liking that alot. The only bad thing about it is that the shorter ratio gearing will make that initial low rpm thottle crack jerk (you know, that on/off switch type throttle response of fuel injection) will be more pronounced. Outside of that, whether its fun or not is entirely up to the preference of the rider.
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The only bad thing about it is that the shorter ratio gearing will make that initial low rpm thottle crack jerk (you know, that on/off switch type throttle response of fuel injection) will be more pronounced.
You mean the sudden jump of acceleration when it feels like the bike is gonna take off at light speed? I LOVE that feeling
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I'd be very interested to hear about people's experiences if any one has tried this.

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I like the stock gearing, I do a pretty even mix of freeway and town and find the gearing spot on.
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I hear a lot about people going down to 44 or 43T rear sprockets for increased top speeds, lower RPM at higher speeds, more use of each gear etc. But I think I'd want it to be the opposite - I want more POWER on each gear. I'd like the option to raise the front wheel by twisting the throttle in basically ANY gear if I wanted to - just not just in the 1st gear. Can you get rear sprockets with even more teeth than the stock 46?

Am I nuts? Anyone else feel this way? I love the stock torque in first gear. Am I riding the V at too high RPMs for it's own good? (Usually between 6k-9K). I rarely ride at really high top speeds because of the insane traffic around where I live (WA), so if anything I'd like more torque in each gear than anything so I can zip between lanes and really accelerate an whatever gear I'm in.
Don't know if you're nuts for wanting shorter gearing; that's a lot of personal preference. But the thought of living between 6-9000 RPM kind of makes my head hurt, mostly because I don't think I could handle the noise. Does seem like a lot of extra wear and heat to save oneself a couple of downshifts. Tear her down at 50,000 and let us know how she looks!

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for wanting to wheelie in any gear - and on a versys! - probably nuts! but I ran a 14t on track. and was perfectly doable in town too.
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Hehe ok maybe not ever gear, but first, second and third?

So you're saying I might be on the wrong bike for that type of throttle response?
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No, Martin. I wouldn't say you're nuts.

You want to try out a new dimension in your riding pleasure.
Minus besides the extra acceleration would be higher rpm and less fuel economy.
Plus more wear and tear and heat generation.
That set-up would serve best on twisty high altitude roads.

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I can live with less fuel economy and higher wear. I just want even more acceleration between 0-60 mph. I rarely get to go faster in this damn area anyways because if slowpokes in front of me.

My question is simply, would gearing down a V give me what I'm lusting for, or am I trying to make the V to something it's not?
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to gear down or not to gear down that is the question. I geared up with 44 rear. you may be on your own here Martin. The V has more than enough zip to pass anyway
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Aha, well I just might have to be pioneer guinea pig on gearing down a V then

I know the V has "enough" zip to pass and accelerate. But I want more than enough hehe...
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Give it a go. If you are happy with the mod, No one can tell you otherwise.
My take, the V is not a bike built for speed.

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Give it a go. If you are happy with the mod, No one can tell you otherwise.
My take, the V is not a bike built for speed.

Cheers, Martin.
yep that true, test rode a BKing the same time I test rode the V
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Ok so if I take the plunge to do this unorthodox downgearing experiment, should I increase rear to 48t? Or leave the 46 t rear stock an install a 14t or 13t in the front?

Or, seriously, am I just doing something stupid here?
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If you don't like how it turns out Martin, its no big deal to put your old sprocket back on. found myself doing the rear pretty easy the front would would take a bit more effort to get off. Go on Martin down gear your bike or it will annoy you until you try.
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Ok so if I take the plunge to do this unorthodox downgearing experiment, should I increase rear to 48t? Or leave the 46 t rear stock an install a 14t or 13t in the front?

Or, seriously, am I just doing something stupid here?
No biggie, they are just gears and sprockets. If you don't like it, put the old one back on again and you are out at most $50.

133bhp already ran a 14T sprocket without a problem so you can certainly do that. A 13T might give an awfully small bending radius for the chain, and also have your chain run a lot on the guides that are placed just before the sprocket. On top of that, the gear reduction might be too much, see below.
15/48 is a 4.2% reduction. (Similar to the increase with a 44T gear, which many people say is the nicest up-gear ratio)
14/46 is a 6.7% reduction. (I have this and I find it right at the edge of how much change in gearing there should be)
13/46 is a 13.6% reduction. (Might be well off the deep end. And perhaps just what you are looking for! )
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The small bending radius of the 13t may be the issue, proceed with a lot of caution and the 13.6% reduction is a **** load of difference.
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I can live with less fuel economy and higher wear. I just want even more acceleration between 0-60 mph. I rarely get to go faster in this damn area anyways because if slowpokes in front of me.
Martin - are you saying you are accelerating at full throttle and the bike doesn't accelerate fast enough? I can see how the current gearing won't allow a power wheelie in 2/3 just by cracking the throttle, but that's not the same as not having enough acceleration.


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