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Filling oil up

Just changed the oil and filter today with 2150 miles. Shell Rotella 5w-40 T6 with K&N oil filter. After putting in two quarts and running the engine, the oil settled closer to the bottom line. Should I fill up to the top or closer to the middle when engine is cold?
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Is the bike level ????

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Yes you may need a total of about 2.1~2.2 US quarts... Try having it at just below the upper line while holding the bike upright balanced on a level surface, with the engine cooled down and settled.
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Type API SG, SH, SJ, SL or SM with JASO MA, MA1 or MA2
Viscosity SAE 10W-40
Capacity: 1.7 L (1.8 US qt) (when filter is not removed)
1.9 L (2.0 US qt) (when filter is removed)
2.4 L (2.5 US qt) (when engine is completely dry)
Level Between upper and lower level lines
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Yes, bike was leveled
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Yes, bike was leveled
Then add oil until you get to the mid-level or just below the top line in the sight glass.

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Topped her off today after placing a 2x4 under the kickstand and went for a ride up Bandera and then took 46 thru Boerne. I don't know if its just fresh oil or not but things are definitely smoother after switching over to Rotella T6. Previous oil was Pennzoil Dino...with the T6, shifting was definitely smoother and overall the motor has not been as vibey as it used to be. Anybody else run T6 on the versys and are there any UOA out there?
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Topped her off today after placing a 2x4 under the kickstand and went for a ride up Bandera and then took 46 thru Boerne. I don't know if its just fresh oil or not but things are definitely smoother after switching over to Rotella T6. Previous oil was Pennzoil Dino...with the T6, shifting was definitely smoother and overall the motor has not been as vibey as it used to be. Anybody else run T6 on the versys and are there any UOA out there?
It might be too full now then. Don't lean it over on anything. Hold bike to have it balanced upright when checking oil level.

Was it Pennzoil Performance 4-cycle motorcycle oil?... Rotella T6 diesel oil is not the best for your engine and transmission either by the way, even though it claims to pass JASO MA for wet clutch compatibility.

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Shell Rotella T6 UOA: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=2671754

"Shell Rotella T6 isn't JASO-MA certified. A JASO-MA "certified" oil has undergone the testing to be allowed to display the certificate on the bottle."

Clarification on Rotella JASO-MA "Certification" | Motorcycles and Motorcycle Lubrication | Bob Is The Oil Guy

JASO Engine Oil Standards Implementarion Standards file updated January 2015:

http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/4T_EV_LIST.pdf

"-Thermal Breakdown BEGINS SOONER with Diesel oil, than with gas engine oils, which is not desirable for High Performance gas engine usage. And as you can see by looking at this short list of “high zinc” gas engine oils, or by looking at the complete ranking list below, there are many, many gas engine oils available that are FAR SUPERIOR to the best Diesel oils in terms of wear protection. Therefore, using Diesel oils in high performance gas engines is NOT the best choice, if you want superior wear protection with plenty of margin of safety (extra reserve wear protection above what the engine typically needs)..."

http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32279

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It might be too full now then. Don't lean it over on anything. Hold bike to have it balanced upright when checking oil level.

Was it Pennzoil Performance 4-cycle motorcycle oil?... Rotella T6 diesel oil is not the best for your engine and transmission either by the way, even though it claims to pass JASO MA for wet clutch compatibility.
I used the 2x4 and the kickstand to hold the bike upright since I was alone. It worked beautifully(also had it strapped in case the motorcycle fell over)
Yes, last oil change was done with Pennzoil Performance 4 cycle. I guess i will change out the rotella after a couple thousand miles. Any recommendations?

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Motul 5100 10W40 Synthetic Blend Motorcycle Oil - Sportbike Track Gear

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There's debate about T6 being Jaso MA certified. It *is* listed on the label, however, if you query Shell, they say it meets the minimum requirements, but do not say it's certified.

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2nd that (or third it as it may be) I always use a Dino oil through the break in process however.
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+1 for Mobil 1. Here in the always hot desert, I use it in 15W50 year round.

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I wish this Shell Rotella being good bike oil rumour would die.

YA, it meets minimum specs for bike oil.

YA, any Motorcycle Oil designed for - wait for it... Motorcycles! with Gasoline Engines - is a superior choice.

YA, your Manual contains all the information about what type of oil you should use.

YA, the synthetic is the Best Oil In The World. Use the stuff for - wait for it... Motorcycles! Or your clutch is more at risk than if you use the Car stuff.

But hey, it's your bike.
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