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How strong is the Muffler?

How strong is the Muffler on the Versys? Can the bike be jacked by it? My Uly used the muffler as a lifting point, very strong. I have an awesome bike jack and a wooden cradle carved to fit a muffler, just curious if it will hold up to get the wheels off the ground or if I need to buy the spools and lift for them.
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its not mounted in a way to support the load of the bike.
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So the Only way to get the bike off the ground is to buy the spools and jack? I may chance it and see.
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wrong...i've used a floor jack under the OEM muffler many times to lift the bike. use a block of wood between the muffler and the jack pad so you don't scratch it.
That's what I was thinking. I have a cradle made out of wood for my Uly, I just may modify it slightly to fit the Versys muffler better, Its a shorter muffler.
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I wanted to lift the front end that way -- by using the muffler as a lift point -- so I could check the level of the fork oil. But the muffler is too far back and I couldn't raise the front end in a stable way. And a front stand and spools would keep the weight on the forks. I don't have a rafter to hang the handlbars off of. So I guess I'll have to get a front stand with an adapter that fits under the triple tree.

Anyway, that's my long way of saying that I lifted the bike using the muffler as the point of contact with a jack, and the muffler was fine. It didn't dent or get crushed like a soda can.

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wrong...i've used a floor jack under the OEM muffler many times to lift the bike. use a block of wood between the muffler and the jack pad so you don't scratch it.
I would have expected it to stress the header the way it is mounted.

but i'll take the words of experience over my own speculation.
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wrong...i've used a floor jack under the OEM muffler many times to lift the bike. use a block of wood between the muffler and the jack pad so you don't scratch it.
I've used the muffler as an AUXILIARY point of lift various times, and on my '15 I HOPE it will function as a 'skid-plate' if THAT becomes necessary before I can find a skid-plate from a manufacturer - it's MORE extensive on my '15.

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I also have used the muffler once as an auxiliary lift point with the rear on a paddock stand and the front supported by tie downs strapped through rafters and my trolley jack under the muffler with a large flat piece of wood.
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Before I learned the jack stands under the rear pegs trick, I put my floor jack under the front seam of the stock muffler to lift it. My jack has a rubber insert so no wood was needed.
I certainly recommend the rear pegs and jack stands over the muffler/jack method, but it will work w/o damage.
What you are chancing is pressing the crush washer unevenly, which will allow exhaust fumes to escape. The exhaust seal at all points is sacred in tuning; and why all the Jap bikes are going to single header/pipe configurations. But even the one pipe/muffler config., it will still be dependent on the most vulnerable cylinder head/pipe crush washer. The muffler itself would hold a jeep up for strength though if that is all you are worried about.

Get a centerstand if you don't have a lift kit
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Paddock Stands or T-Lift

T-Lift uses a bar through the bike frame in hole behind the side panels.
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How strong is the Muffler on the Versys? Can the bike be jacked by it? My Uly used the muffler as a lifting point, very strong. I have an awesome bike jack and a wooden cradle carved to fit a muffler, just curious if it will hold up to get the wheels off the ground or if I need to buy the spools and lift for them.
I normally use the spools on the rear swing arm and a spool stand.

For swing arm/suspension work where you cannot lift by the swing arm, I use a car floor jack under the right side peg to tripod the bike on the front wheel and side stand.

I would expect the muffler to crush under the 450lb weight of the bike. IME bike jacks only work for HD or similar style bikes with a heavy perimeter frame to lift by.

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Here's the wood adaptor I made for my floor jack. Pretty nice to have/ use when you want to lube swing-arm bearings, OR steering-stem....









My jack ALSO has the rubber pad.

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It seems pretty beefy to me. It's more solid than a car muffler. I would also share the concern of others about stress on the headers though.
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Just this Sunday I used my sears ATV lift to install my motowerks lowering kit on my 2014 versus. The caveat is use a strap to secure the bike to the stand. I had no issues whatsoever.

I've used this lift for my 2001 Concours without concern to change tires etc. And the Connie is 200# heavier.




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