chain clean with Seafoam? - Kawasaki Versys Forum
 8Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-23-2015, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Apple Valley, Minnesota
Posts: 283
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
chain clean with Seafoam?

I do not want to use WD40, but I have a can of Seafoam. Is that effective and is it safe to use for the chain?

Todd
White 2015 650 LT
Apple Valley, Minnesota
Squishman is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-23-2015, 06:21 PM
Member
 
weljo2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Norwalk CA
Posts: 15,509
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishman View Post
I do not want to use WD40, but I have a can of Seafoam. Is that effective and is it safe to use for the chain?

I wouldn't try it...If you don't want to use WD-40. Then give Goop Hand Cleaner a try with a Grunge Brush. Thats what i use. just the regular Goop not the one with Pumice in it...

!BcKEoKQ!2k~$(KGrHqYH-CgEqu!U6SwdBKzQDZyeHQ~~_35 by weljo2001, on Flickr

2009 Blue Versys.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Sold
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My Farkles...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My Video Channel
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

My Photos...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


I'm not a Gynecologist. "But I'll Take A Look"

Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth...
Mike Tyson

"Ya'll can go to hell, I'm goin' to Texas!"...Davey Crockett
weljo2001 is offline  
post #3 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-23-2015, 08:38 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Poughkeepsie NY
Posts: 1,164
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishman View Post
I do not want to use WD40, but I have a can of Seafoam. Is that effective and is it safe to use for the chain?
WD40 works great.
kballowe likes this.

08' Versys
Givi racks with V35 sides, and V46 Top-case, Garmin Zumo 450 GPS, Powermadd Handguards, Motowerks GPS Mount, Peg Lowering kit, Flat Foot, Arrow Exhaust, Adjustable Levers, GIPro Gear Indicator, Oxford Heated Grips
HAWKSHOT99 is offline  
 
post #4 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-23-2015, 10:24 PM
Member
 
invader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kapuskasing Ontario Canada
Posts: 7,827
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
I just wipe the chain off with a rag before lubing it with Maxima Chain Guard which doesn't gum it up... This might work:

DuPont Motorcycle Degreaser, 11 oz - Walmart.com
invader is offline  
post #5 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-23-2015, 11:19 PM
Member
 
kawdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,596
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Any solvent especially OR chain lube should say made for x and o ring chains to not take ANY chances. Chains, sprockets, and labor/your time is expensive.

Chain cleaning and lube is a fast fine art of motorcycling: it's your main constant maintenance. Don't screw it up experimenting blindly by asking web opinions. You better have verifiable proof on every can!

Of course if you are a Chemical Engineer in the petroleum industry, never mind
kawdog is offline  
post #6 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-24-2015, 02:20 AM
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 1,454
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Garage
use Kerosene (also known as Parafin) on a rag and wipe the chain.
Then use what ever chain lube to protect and lube your chain.

I have a chain oiler and never have to clean the chain - but I do prefer to clean it once in a while and use kerosene. Does not take much on a rag and chain comes up nice and clean.

I also use WD-40 as a cleaner and degreaser all over the bike except the brakes
Removed stubborn road tar quickly.
kballowe likes this.
Gigitt is offline  
post #7 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-24-2015, 08:09 AM
Member
 
kballowe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Near St. Louis
Posts: 918
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HAWKSHOT99 View Post
WD40 works great.
Yes, it does.

And it's harmless to the chain and most other stuff.

Kerosene is faster. Diesel fuel works as well.
NO SMOKING !!!


No matter where you go - there you are.

Last edited by kballowe; 09-24-2015 at 08:13 AM.
kballowe is offline  
post #8 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-24-2015, 12:49 PM
Member
 
kohburn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eastern, NC
Posts: 1,094
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
seafoam has too many solvents in it I would not use. wd40 is much more harmless than seafoam.
kohburn is offline  
post #9 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-24-2015, 04:11 PM
Member
 
kawdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,596
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by kohburn View Post
seafoam has too many solvents in it I would not use. wd40 is much more harmless than seafoam.
Someone here got 50k miles on a chain using wd40 in a chain oiler said it got real loud near the end (like the rubber rings were gone) and that's the main reason they finally replaced it.

I bet wd40 does not say safe for x and o ring chains on it ymmv
kawdog is offline  
post #10 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-24-2015, 05:44 PM
Super Moderator
 
fasteddiecopeman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Kelowna, BC - summer; Florence, AZ - winter
Posts: 17,351
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by kawdog View Post
Someone here got 50k miles on a chain using wd40 in a chain oiler said it got real loud near the end (like the rubber rings were gone) and that's the main reason they finally replaced it.

I bet wd40 does not say safe for x and o ring chains on it ymmv
MIGHT be ME on my '08 in AZ, tho' I did NOT use it in an oiler. The ORIGINAL chain (ONLY ever 'lubed' w/ WD40!) was changed at 57,xxx MILES, then inspected by "watt-man", an engineer, who said that there was only ONE noisy link, and that, otherwise, it was STILL good for MANY more miles!

BTW - I did NOT say it "...got real loud near the end...". I said I changed it because it was becoming noisy.


Ed
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


'08 V AZ, '15 V650LT BC
Ride to D2D 2013, June '13

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Ride to D2D 2015, June '15

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Ride to D2D 2016, June '16

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
fasteddiecopeman is offline  
post #11 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-24-2015, 06:17 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Apple Valley, Minnesota
Posts: 283
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Good info. Thx for the responses. I won't be using seafoam. I do have a Grunge Brush that is still in the packaging. I wonder if you can buy small containers of kerosene. Like a pint.

Todd
White 2015 650 LT
Apple Valley, Minnesota
Squishman is offline  
post #12 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-24-2015, 07:55 PM
Member
 
kawdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,596
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by fasteddiecopeman View Post
MIGHT be ME on my '08 in AZ, tho' I did NOT use it in an oiler. The ORIGINAL chain (ONLY ever 'lubed' w/ WD40!) was changed at 57,xxx MILES, then inspected by "watt-man", an engineer, who said that there was only ONE noisy link, and that, otherwise, it was STILL good for MANY more miles!

BTW - I did NOT say it "...got real loud near the end...". I said I changed it because it was becoming noisy.

Well, it may not be you then. If we have another one, we will have enough for a statistical sample to measure the variance of averages
kawdog is offline  
post #13 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-25-2015, 06:02 AM
Member
 
kohburn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eastern, NC
Posts: 1,094
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by kawdog View Post
Someone here got 50k miles on a chain using wd40 in a chain oiler said it got real loud near the end (like the rubber rings were gone) and that's the main reason they finally replaced it.

I bet wd40 does not say safe for x and o ring chains on it ymmv
I don't live life requiring manufacturers to spell out every single potential function of a product. I work off MSDS sheets, tests, and evidence.
kohburn is offline  
post #14 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-25-2015, 06:05 AM
Member
 
kohburn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eastern, NC
Posts: 1,094
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squishman View Post
Good info. Thx for the responses. I won't be using seafoam. I do have a Grunge Brush that is still in the packaging. I wonder if you can buy small containers of kerosene. Like a pint.
"lamp oil" at the hardware store, home fuel oil, kerosene. all essentially the same. according to some in the industry they are exactly the same these days except for dye additives for tax purposes.
Squishman and Ididar like this.
kohburn is offline  
post #15 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-25-2015, 07:04 AM
Member
 
silviefox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: welches, oregon
Posts: 3,116
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to silviefox
seafoam goes in the gas tank not the chain, WD-40 is great for the cleaning and lubeing of the chain, if you dont wanna use it to lube it it still can be used for cleaning, spray the chain down lightly then wipe off, thats what i do on all of mine ,

yes im a guy.
Silvie=latin for. Of the forest /woods. Fox= Vulpine (also my middle name)

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

"closed mindedness causes bliss in simple minded people"
silviefox is offline  
post #16 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-25-2015, 07:29 AM
Member
 
Wulff81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: WVC, Utah
Posts: 125
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Garage
Kerosene should be in the paint chemical section of the local hardware store.
Wulff81 is offline  
post #17 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-25-2015, 09:42 AM
Member
 
GiantAntCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 245
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
"Is it ok to lube my chain with WD-40?"


Haha!

.
kawdog likes this.

2008 Versys 650

Been riding 8 or 9 years, and have owned 8 or 9 bikes; its an addiction I can't quit...
GiantAntCowboy is offline  
post #18 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-25-2015, 09:50 AM
Member
 
silviefox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: welches, oregon
Posts: 3,116
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Garage
Send a message via Skype™ to silviefox
Quote:
Originally Posted by GiantAntCowboy View Post
"Is it ok to lube my chain with WD-40?"


Haha!

.
thats not lubed with WD-40 thats the bike got soaked in WD-40 xD

must be MR.eddie

yes im a guy.
Silvie=latin for. Of the forest /woods. Fox= Vulpine (also my middle name)

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

"closed mindedness causes bliss in simple minded people"
silviefox is offline  
post #19 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-25-2015, 10:47 AM
Member
 
kawdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,596
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by kohburn View Post
I don't live life requiring manufacturers to spell out every single potential function of a product. I work off MSDS sheets, tests, and evidence.
What in the world does Material Safety Data Sheets have to do with wearing out the rubber ring seals drying out due to chemical interfaces in a chain? Nothing: they are mutually exclusive. They are not flammable, combustible, or chronic hazards.

So at least with your MSDS sheets, you know you are not flammable, combustible, or a chronic hazard sitting by itself alone. But if you got MSDS sheets for EVERY material interface possible, THAT would be warehouses full of MSDS sheets. I think looking for applicable use on solvent and chain lube cans is slightly easier. ymmv

If you publish any of your tests and evidence, I'd like to see your lube, solvent, o and x ring chain interaction data for every type solvent and chain lube possible or ANY that you have would be sufficient.


Last edited by kawdog; 09-25-2015 at 10:57 AM.
kawdog is offline  
post #20 of 43 (permalink) Old 09-25-2015, 10:52 AM
Member
 
kohburn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eastern, NC
Posts: 1,094
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
that's a fuel line failure, but the humor is not lost on me
kohburn is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Kawasaki Versys Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome