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Questions about using phone as GPS on bike

I've used two different GSP models over the years on my bike.They both have had the same issue. A loose micro USB port causes them to erratically loose power and sometimes reboot. The vibration on the bike causes the USB cable to sometime loose contact which in turn causes them to either turn off or reboot.

As a work around I was wondering about using my Android cell phone with an inductive charging mount. Has anyone done this? What mount do you use??? What GPS software do you use??? I have an LG G3.

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i use my android for gps all the time works fine for me

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I've used both my iphone and Tom Tom for navigation with no issues. I have the RAM mounts which maybe help dampen out some of the vibrations.

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Get a better USB mount? The one on my Versys works fine, never had it stop working.
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This may help. It really depends what you want to do. If you just want a point A to point B route then the phones work pretty well. If you want to plan a custom route then it takes a bit more work.

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...phone-gps.html

I did find a free way to plan a custom route, see page 3 of above.

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I use waze on my iPhone and put the ear phone in my ear, it advises me of police ahead and gets me there every time (if I set it to where i'm going. I put my phone in my jacket pocket, no mount and it's free.
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I use a cheapo Chinese GPS with Be-on-road software and an Android phone with Google Maps and "NavFree" as a backup.

Issues with the Android phone:

- Not water proof.
- GPS nav sucks battery. I don't know if you'll be able to keep it charged with the wireless charger.
- Unable to load GPX routes.

Advantages of the phone:
- Consant updates of the maps, it can alert of roadworks and select better options.
- When going trough a city it is traffic aware.
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My issue with using my phone as a gps is that even plugged in, it discharges the battery faster than it can charge. I use my phone for local trips around town, but otherwise I use a Garmin Nuvi and have only had problems when I used a cheap, poorly made power outlet.

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Of the nearly 100,000 miles I've ridden my three Vs over the years, ALMOST all were w/ a GPS, and I NEVER had a problem w/ the power wire coming loose (all Garmins - two 26xx, and two Nuvi 550s). I leave a small curve in it, and anchor the part BELOW the curve w/ a zip-tie.

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My issue with using my phone as a gps is that even plugged in, it discharges the battery faster than it can charge.
Maybe you're not using a sufficient USB adapter. What's the current rating of the one you're using? For me anyway running Waze meant greater charging needs than running google maps.

Advantage of a standalone GPS unit: maps are built in. You can turn it on and go, and if you're in the region it covers , you get a map. Do that with a phone running google maps or Waze and when you're out of cell range (data connection range), sooner or later you'll end up with a blank map. It might work if you've loaded a route in advance, but I often don't.

The advantage of Waze on the phone is you get real-time traffic and road hazard information, traffic-based route time estimates, etc. Maybe there are standalone units with this stuff too, but mine don't have it.
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Maybe you're not using a sufficient USB adapter. What's the current rating of the one you're using?
Good point, I'd have to check...

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I use waze on my iPhone and put the ear phone in my ear, it advises me of police ahead and gets me there every time (if I set it to where i'm going. I put my phone in my jacket pocket, no mount and it's free.
Mine usually goes in my pocket and bluetooth it to my helmet. If I need to charge the phone it goes in my tankbag with the lead going to the USB outlet.
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hey man.
i have the iphone 6 plus and I use it all the time as a gps unit.
My phone lives in an otterbox defender case and i attach it to the bike with the ram mounts x grip. seated properly and after gluing the rubber tips to the mount, it is safe a secure at over 110mph.
I always run waze , as it tells me when cops are ahead and live real time traffic updates.
as far as power, i have a switched cable attached to the sae port i installed. more than enough power to completely charge my cewll while running gps, and music, and full brightness screen.
with your issue of cable vibrating, id suggest looping it in a circle right before the attachment to phone and ziptie it, to reduce stress at the connection point
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oh ya for plug isue if its coming out on the divice end try getting a cable with a 90* or 180* end and tape the wire off to the device so it cant move (like a strain releaf you see on almost everything with a cord these days, if its on the usb plug side maybe try bending the metal frame of the USB cord end just a bit so it wedges on to the plug better

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hey man.
i have the iphone 6 plus and I use it all the time as a gps unit.
My phone lives in an otterbox defender case and i attach it to the bike with the ram mounts x grip. seated properly and after gluing the rubber tips to the mount, it is safe a secure at over 110mph.
I always run waze , as it tells me when cops are ahead and live real time traffic updates.
as far as power, i have a switched cable attached to the sae port i installed. more than enough power to completely charge my cewll while running gps, and music, and full brightness screen.
with your issue of cable vibrating, id suggest looping it in a circle right before the attachment to phone and ziptie it, to reduce stress at the connection point
I have the same phone and a similar case. I've read a lot of conflicting reports about the x-grip working well enough. Could you possibly take me a picture of your setup?
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The issue is with the micro USB plug in the back of the GPS. As a short term fix I've taped the end of the micro USB plug in the GPS and it seems to work better that way although it is inconvenient to do this.

If I had my large screen phone back when I bought my GPS I think I would have just bought a good mount for my phone instead and used it as a GPS. Still the software on the Garmin is superior to what is available for the Android. Hopefully they will port some of the great proprietary GPS software out there to the Android OS and Apple OS in the future.

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The issue is with the micro USB plug in the back of the GPS. As a short term fix I've taped the end of the micro USB plug in the GPS and it seems to work better that way although it is inconvenient to do this.

If I had my large screen phone back when I bought my GPS I think I would have just bought a good mount for my phone instead and used it as a GPS. Still the software on the Garmin is superior to what is available for the Android. Hopefully they will port some of the great proprietary GPS software out there to the Android OS and Apple OS in the future.
a cord like this USB 2 0 Micro 5P Male Down Angled 90 Degree to Mini 5P Female Adapter Cable Cord | eBay (but with the ends that match your GPS will help alot.. plug and tape it to your gps then unplug on its end and dont have to deal with the gps end

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On long highway rides I may add a rubber band, for extra peace of mind. Works well and never had an issue though without it.
Make sure to take the rubber tips off when you first get it, fill with gorilla or super glue, and put back on the metal frame. Let it dry and you're good to go
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I use waze on my iPhone and put the ear phone in my ear, it advises me of police ahead and gets me there every time (if I set it to where i'm going. I put my phone in my jacket pocket, no mount and it's free.
+1 except it's Android.
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