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Crush washer

I think I already know the answer to this one, but will ask anyway for confirmation. I just changed the oil on my new Versys on day one with 23 miles. There was not a crush washer on the oil drain bolt. It's possible that it stuck to the pan and fell into the drain bucket once the oil started draining, but they usually stay on the bolt. I've never seen an oil drain bolt without the crush washer. Is this normal on the Versys or will I be draining the oil again very shortly to replace this missing part? I've done a lot of oil changes and this is the first time I've seen this.

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There is an aluminum oil drain bolt 'gasket'. Kawasaki recommends replacing it at every oil change. Kawasaki part # 92065-097 ($0.34 MSRP). 12 mm hole, 22 mm outer diameter, 2 mm thick.

Aluminum gasket # 2414: http://www.magneticdrainplugs.com/gaskets.htm
Magnetic drain bolt # 1044M (12 mm, 1.5 threads): http://www.magneticdrainplugs.com/mo...rain_plugs.htm
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Thanks invader. That's what I was afraid of. I was going to put one on, but didn't have any on hand. Guess I'll be making a run to the parts store in the morning. The dimensions you gave will help.
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Runnuing the V without the Alumminium washer. Have done 9K ,no problem so far. Original filter with O ring and that's it. Gave a tight turn and done with.

Most of the filter changes I have done cam ewith the washer, but the V is missing the washer.Checked with the service center and guys who did the first service also said NO washer.

NOw ,Do I get the washer and replace on the next service or run without the washer.

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I bought my bike used .When I went to change the oil it had no washer but I put one on.It only cost about 35 cents .

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The V is my first bike and I never heard of an aluminum crush washer. Being paranoid that it might leak oil if I reused the crush washer I change the washer with every oil change. My Kawasaki dealer only had 2 so I bought both of them and ordered another 6. They didn't cost that much so I don't mind changing them out every time.

Fastoman, I'd buy a small stockpile of the crush washers and start using them on the next oil change. They are relatively inexpensive and I'd use them for the piece of mind.


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on my previous bikes, i used the same crush washer over and over. i had those bikes between 10-16 years. never lost a drop.

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on my previous bikes, i used the same crush washer over and over. i had those bikes between 10-16 years. never lost a drop.
Agreed. Never replaced any washers on the drain bolts from any bikes/vehicles/mowers etc. Never had one drop of oil on the garage floor.

Since the washers are cheap, go for it!
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The V is my first bike and I never heard of an aluminum crush washer. Being paranoid that it might leak oil if I reused the crush washer I change the washer with every oil change. My Kawasaki dealer only had 2 so I bought both of them and ordered another 6. They didn't cost that much so I don't mind changing them out every time.

Fastoman, I'd buy a small stockpile of the crush washers and start using them on the next oil change. They are relatively inexpensive and I'd use them for the piece of mind.
brother C. Will do come next oil change for sure , just for the peace of mind.

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I was able to empty my main oil drain container today therefore had a place to empty my drain pan. Lo and behold, found an aluminum washer in the bottom. I now have the distinct pleasure of probably being the only versys owner that has done an oil change EVERY day he has owned the bike. Actually, I only did a drain and refill today, but still had to go through the whole process. At least it's easy and don't have to remove any bodywork.

I also reuse washers unless they have obvious damage; not because they're expensive, just don't remember to get one.
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I never bother replacing mine either. Only if it would eventually wear out or get damaged... An aluminum gasket is more compatible with the aluminum oil pan for oxidation, and for torquing the drain bolt onto.
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I bought some copper washers (1/2"???), and replace each change. Then I anneal the old washer and save it for next oil change.

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1/2" (12.7 mm) instead of the metric 12 mm gasket still fits... My Yamaha WR426F had copper gaskets instead of aluminum, on the drain bolt and oil lines.
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Did the same thing on my first oil change....didn't notice it until the second oil change, when I found it in the oil pan...made sure i had it on the 3rd! See always learning


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The point of the crush washer isn't to retain oil. It's to protect against over-torquing the drain plug. Over-torque and strip the threads and you're in a heap of trouble repairing or replacing the engine case. I'd wager that 35 cents is cheap enough insurance to always replace it.
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haven't done the versys yet, but i'd think you'd have to be a gorilla to over torque a drain plug.

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Engine cases are made of aluminum. I'ts not hard for the ham fisted to strip the threads. If in doubt, use a torque wrench. When you buy the filter for each oil change, ask the parts guy to look up the correct washer, buy it and tape it to the box until you do the oil change. That works for me.
Speaking of ham fists, (and this is with steel threads on a car's oilpan), years ago it used to be a pretty common thing for oil change "specialists" to strip drain plug threads. Now they all seem to use a torque wrench as per company policy.
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The crush washer is an aluminum or copper disc designed to deform under pressure, which helps seal the oil drain plug. IMHO, good for at least 2 old changes.

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I was able to empty my main oil drain container today therefore had a place to empty my drain pan. Lo and behold, found an aluminum washer in the bottom. I now have the distinct pleasure of probably being the only versys owner that has done an oil change EVERY day he has owned the bike. Actually, I only did a drain and refill today, but still had to go through the whole process. At least it's easy and don't have to remove any bodywork.

I also reuse washers unless they have obvious damage; not because they're expensive, just don't remember to get one.
Back in late 2008 (or was it last year) there was a guy on this forum who changed his oil every 600 miles. I do not know if he is still around (I have not taken the time to look at the old posts). Combine his change interval with some active riding and you might end up changing your oil every day.

As for crush washers, there is no good source in town here so I went to amazon.com and got 10 or so of these.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JWMOSU/ref=oss_product
The shipping cost was much less last year. Searching around and I am sure you can find a cheap source for these washers (as others have said before). Now that I bought some for my Versys, I actually change them regularly on my Honda minivan. Before the Versys I never changed crush washers (which my Ford does not require) and never had oil leaking out of the pan.
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Over-torque and strip the threads and you're in a heap of trouble repairing or replacing the engine case.
You'd just need to replace the oil pan, which is about $100 on the MK2.

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