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Purolator Oil filters...change...

Someone posted this on another forum..I'm just passing it along. I know some people use the ML14612 or the ML14610 on the Versys.
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At Purolator, we continually strive to provide improved innovation and performance of our products. Late last year we re-designed the baseplate assembly for our 14612 product offerings. This change included PureONE and Purolator Classic as well as our commercial brands.
Why the change? The 14612 series fits many applications from families including Chevy, Ford, Mazda, Infinity, Subaru and Nissan. A few of these applications are particularly difficult to reach. In order to improve the overall customer experience, we changed the baseplate design to provide additional thread engagement and a more noticeably “snug” feel when hand-tightening the filter. This improvement was accomplished by: 1. Changing the base plate from a concave to a convex design (as it shows in your photo); and 2. Slightly increasing the height of the gasket.
While the “feel” of hand installation is noticeably enhanced with these changes, it is always recommended to use a torque wrench specification of 12-15 Nm (approximately a ¾ final tightening turn) to ensure proper seal.
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All of the PL14610s I have look like the one on the left. I wonder if that is the new or old design?
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New one is on the right.
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New one is on the right.
Yes, sorry I should have pointed that out. It seems the new design may prevent a good seal for some applications.

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Might be real, might not... I'll believe it when I see it.

It looks to me like the filter on the right represented as the 'new' design may have been overtightened, pulling the previously concave baseplate into it's now convex position, and bottoming the threads against the engine case - and distorting the gasket, making it look bigger, but sealing less effectively than if it were under constant elastic tension...

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Might be real, might not... I'll believe it when I see it.

It looks to me like the filter on the right represented as the 'new' design may have been overtightened, pulling the previously concave baseplate into it's now convex position, and bottoming the threads against the engine case - and distorting the gasket, making it look bigger, but sealing less effectively than if it were under constant elastic tension...
I agree with your theory entirely.


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haha, Y'all crack me up! Believe what you want. There is no reason to debate verifiable facts. Right wrong or indifferent here is the Purolator powersports application guide.
http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/..._APPGD_11b.pdf Both of the pictured filters lack the "ML" preceding the product number. Prolly makes a difference. They are P14412

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haha, Y'all crack me up! Believe what you want. There is no reason to debate verifiable facts. Right wrong or indifferent here is the Purolator powersports application guide.

http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/..._APPGD_11b.pdf Both of the pictured filters lack the "ML" preceding the product number. Prolly makes a difference. They are P14412

Is there a difference between the PL and the ML that would hurt the bike? I know often the only difference in some filters seems to be in the length and I have often put longer filters on my cars and other bikes with no problems . Looking for knowledge!


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Not trying to be contentious, it just looks odd to me. Might be perfectly true - and I'll believe it when I see it. Nothing to do with you, Yamadog, as far as I can tell, you're just passing along some information you saw on another forum.

The post appears to be a letter from Purolator to a person writing them about this design change. I can't find any actual Purolator tech/spec info about this design change anywhere else I looked, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, just that I can't find it. Yet. I learned a long time ago to look a bit askance at posts on forums as "facts" without at least a cursory backcheck - and in this case, I can't find any supporting documentation.

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There was no such change made to the filter, and that ridiculous Facebook comment does not exist... That filter was obviously overtorqued.
Verifiable facts? Really, Yamadog? I never expected this from you, man.
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There was no such change made to the filter, and that ridiculous Facebook comment does not exist... That filter was obviously overtorqued.
Verifiable facts? Really, Yamadog? I never expected this from you, man.
Exactly, verifiable (or not verifiable) I was wrong once...but I was mistaken
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