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The Versys's engine soaks up almost 10000 litres of air /hour rather inefficient (thin) filter which on Service Manual is cleared infrequently, however, is established. In what here "secret"?
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The Versys's engine soaks up almost 10000 litres of air /hour rather inefficient (thin) filter which on Service Manual is cleared infrequently, however, is established. In what here "secret"?
I think most of us english speakers are having a little trouble with your translation.

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I think most of us english speakers are having a little trouble with your translation.
I am sorry for mine English. However, I will try once again.
1.The Versys's engine uses approximately 100000 litres of air /hour;
2.Approximately as much uses the usual car;
3.Versys air filter is essentially less effective (has the smaller area) than the car air filter;
4.It is served, it agree Service Manual, the Versys air filter is more rare and more difficult, than car air filter;
5.The place in the Versys's resonator is available;
6.Why so?
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My car, actually both of them call for an air filter replacement at 50,000 miles, the Versys calls for a clean every 7500 and a NEW ONE every 2 years. My car uses surface area and paper to capture dirt, the Versys uses an oil based element to trap dirt...to answer a few of yours.

The comparison between a car air filter and the Versys is invalid IMHO, very differnt filters, different life span, etc. You are comparing the Versys to what sized car engine? A 3700cc V6 car engine running at 2500 RPM compared to a 650cc twin engine running at 5000 RPM? What are your static measurements to say the Versys uses as much air as a car, over which RPM and mileage range?
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My car, actually both of them call for an air filter replacement at 50,000 miles, the Versys calls for a clean every 7500 and a NEW ONE every 2 years. My car uses surface area and paper to capture dirt, the Versys uses an oil based element to trap dirt...to answer a few of yours.

The comparison between a car air filter and the Versys is invalid IMHO, very differnt filters, different life span, etc. You are comparing the Versys to what sized car engine? A 3700cc V6 car engine running at 2500 RPM compared to a 650cc twin engine running at 5000 RPM? What are your static measurements to say the Versys uses as much air as a car, over which RPM and mileage range?
1."air filter replacement at 50,000 miles"-At you excellent ecology! Even enviably! At us in St.-Petersburg in the winter of road strew technical salt.
Therefore the air filter stops the functions no more than through 5000 km (hardly more than 3000 miles)...Here so!
2."Versys uses an oil based element" -And You are not mistaken?
3. "A 3700cc V6 car engine running at 2500 RPM compared to a 650cc twin engine running at 5000 RPM?" -No. 1300cc V4 car engine running at 2500 RPM compared to a 650cc twin engine running at 10000 RPM.
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1. Perhaps it is less about me being enviromentally considerate and more to do with the quality of our products here? I see all the time at the oil change places that 99% of the people who okay a new air filter DO NOT need one. Just because a filter looks dirty doesn't mean its performance had degraded. Where I live,we have a long winter and use a lot of sand and salt on the roads. I changed my car air filter at 30,000 miles (NOT I AM SAYING MILES, NOT KMs) and hontestly it was still good.
2. No I am NOT mistaken, I am more than 100% positive of this.
3. You argument still does not work, you are comparing an engine twice the size running at 25% of the RPM.

Although I feel I am just feeding the troll here, I think it you are serious, you should go back and think about it a bit.
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it's a little off the topic, but the filter needs cleaning with a high flash solvant. Any suggestions as to brand or product???
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A high flash point solvent means something that doesn't ignite too easily, so don't use gasoline for example. I think Kawasaki just doesn't want you to blow yourself up and then be sued by your survivors for giving you dangerous advice. Diesel or kerosene would work or you can buy a K&N cleaning kit (also made by other companies) which includes a spray-on cleaner and a suitable oil for recharging the filter.

I'm enjoying reading Alexander's posts and trying to figure out what he's trying to say. I admire the effort he's making. I share his curiosity about why certain elements of the bike are designed as they are, but also agree with Marc that the comparison to automotive air filters is misleading. Ultimately, no matter where you live, if you clean your filter regularly things should be fine. In fact, I see no reason to change the filter every 2 years unless it is damaged, just keep cleaning it. A new OEM filter is about $80 CDN.
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I think what he is trying to say is- the air filter element is reverse gear handle bars.
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Yes the original air filter is of lesser quality than an after market and will probably need cleaned more often with your air conditions than an after market. I would keep the original and just make a habit of checking it after so many miles to get a better idea of when YOU need to clean it, NOT when the manual recommends cleaning.
Each persons enviroment will dictate when they need to clean thier filter, don't go by the manual, it is a just a baseline to follow.
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