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bringing fuel tank in house ?

hi,

i drained all but a few ounces of gas out of my tank, can't get it out completely.

is this tank safe to keep in my house for a few weeks while i work on it ?

i'm guessing these tanks are sealed tight becuase of the fuel injections.

i know to keep the pressure relieved.....

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Probably safe, but I imagine the smell might get to you.



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Probably safe, but I imagine the smell might get to you.
if you could smell it, it wouldn't be safe then.
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looks like you answered your own question...



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Just my 2 cents...Tanks are not sealed tight...They have a vent around the filler cap...You are asking for heap biggie trouble, my friend...Work on it outside...Or have your local fire dept park outside

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Just my 2 cents...Tanks are not sealed tight...They have a vent around the filler cap...You are asking for heap biggie trouble, my friend...Work on it outside...Or have your local fire dept park outside
very good contractor, i took the filler cap apart earlier and seen the vent.

it's staying out.

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Be nice to have you around for the 010 season

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Dave, used to do it all the time with my ZRX. Kept it in the third floor bath tub. No problems. Give it a swirl with Mystery oil. NO SMOKING!
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Not to make an issue of this, but it's not safe just because one person got away with doing it. Actually, it would be a huge hazard if there was to be a fire in your home due to a completely different reason. Then you have a real bomb sitting there just waiting to get enough pressure. The vent may not be large enough to relieve rapidly building pressure. The fact that there's only a small amount of fuel in it actually makes it more dangerous due to how quickly it can heat up. You could kill a firefighter.

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I kept the cap open, no pressure and no smell. Though I did get all the gas out. I swirled Mystery oil, emptied it than brought it in the house. Not a big deal. I'm sure the insurance company would have been interested however.
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Sorry, I guess I misunderstood that part about the oil swirl. That sounds like a very good solution.

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any ideas on getting all the fuel out ?

you can't just flip the tank over, it has that lip thingy that sticks down into the filler hole a couple of inches whichs doesn't allow the fuel to run out completely.

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The repair manual recommends using a siphon... Otherwise, you could remove the fuel pump from the bottom of the tank, or operate the pump connected directly to a 12 volt battery, with a hose on it into a canister.
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The repair manual recommends using a siphon... Otherwise, you could remove the fuel pump from the bottom of the tank, or operate the pump connected directly to a 12 volt battery, with a hose on it into a canister.
good idea on pumping it out with a battery.

I siphon most of the gas out of it, but couldn't get the last little bit.

I thought about removing the fuel pump, but didn't know what type of gasket was there and didn't want to ruin anything, then have to buy a new part.

has anyone ever removed the fuel pump ?



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According to manual:

Fuel Pump Removal
CAUTION
Never drop the fuel pump, especially on a hard surface. Such a shock to the pump can damage it.
WARNING
Gasoline is extremely flammable and can be explosive under certain conditions. Make sure the area is well-ventilated and free from any source of flame or sparks; this includes any appliance with a pilot light. Do not smoke. Turn the ignition switch OFF. Disconnect the battery (–) terminal. To make fuel spillage minimum, draw the fuel out from the fuel tank when the engine is cold. Be prepared for fuel spillage; any spilled fuel must be completely wiped up immediately. Draw the fuel out from the fuel tank with a commercially available electric pump.
•Remove the fuel tank (see Fuel Tank Removal).
○Be careful of fuel spillage from the fuel tank since fuel still remains in the fuel tank and fuel pump. Plug the fuel pipe of the fuel tank. •Turn the fuel tank upside down.
•Remove: Fuel Pump Bolts, Fuel Pump, and gasket •Discard the fuel pump gasket.
CAUTION
Do not pull the lead of the fuel pump. If they are pulled, the lead terminals may be damaged.
Fuel Pump Installation
•Remove dirt or dust from the fuel pump by lightly applying compressed air.
•Replace the fuel pump gasket with a new one.
•Apply a non-permanent locking agent to the threads of the fuel pump bolts.
•Tighten the fuel pump bolts to a snug fit, tighten them alternating diagonally.
Torque - Fuel Pump Bolts: 87 in·lb (7.25 ft-lbs)
•Tighten the pump bolts again alternating diagonally to check the tightness.

Kawasaki part # for the gasket (O-ring): 92055-0185. ($1.36 from Cheap Cycle Parts)

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Thanks Invader for your help & info.
sounds like pumping it out with the fuel pump would be the best.

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Yeah... Just make sure you don't ignite the draining gas with a spark. Maybe set it up properly with the tank propped up and wires connected at the pump first, with a hose snug on the outlet and into a canister, then connect to battery at some distance. Disconnect it as soon as you start pulling air bubbles, when the pump sound starts changing.
Then again, you only have a few ounces left in there?
gotcha, i'll cover all the bases to stay safe.

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You could still try. It'll only have to pump for a few seconds to get a couple ounces out. Make sure the pump is at the lowest possible position.

Fuel pump wires:
Positive (+) → Red (White/Red on harness to plug-in)
Negative (–) → Black (Black/Yellow on harness to plug-in)

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lol. . . . I've got the whole bike inside my 1-bedroom 800sq feet apartment. . . . . just drive it on into the dining area. . . . fumes? What fumes? I'll be taking my tank off and replacing it soon. . . . . If you don't hear from me I blew myself up lol.

No doubt I'll use a high speed fan aimed at the window to take out the gas vapor and keep my upstairs neighbor from gasping lol.

I'd be like: At the afterlife gate "How'd ya die?" "I blew myself up on a kawasaki and it was a V." "Well come on in, after all, all those Harley boys are chromed up and down guarding the gates of hell right now anyway!"

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"No doubt I'll use a high speed fan aimed at the window to take out the gas vapor and keep my upstairs neighbor from gasping lol."

No worries about vapors hitting the brushes?
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