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Old 06-18-2009, 02:07 PM Thread Starter
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Can't tell what's bent!

Hey all,

I laid the V down this past Friday, low-speed spill on wet tracks. That's a-whole-nother post.

Anyway, I replaced the bars, grips, side cowling and gernerator cover and all is well except I can't tell exactly what is still bent. My new handlebars tilt ever-so-slightly forward on the left side. It _appears_ the handlebar clamp is bent (where it connects to the triple) but I don't know how to tell for sure.

I'll have to post pics if necessary when I get home, but until then is there some way a relatively non-mechanic can get an idea of what is actually bent ?

The bike steers straight, even if I let go of the bars... no drift. Looking dead on at the front wheel (with a friend on it) I don't see any alignment prob on the front. Tire/wheel looks fine. No wobble. brakes work fine. Bike runs/rides perfect.

but...

If I look dead-on down at the HB clamp at speed, the right-lower bolt that secures the bars (not the one connected to the triple), looks closer to the tank than the left-lower bolt. This would make me believe that its the lower-half of the clamp. It would make sense because I hit the pavement on the left side of the bike and I would expect it could have torqued the HB clamp to the right a little.

So, is there any good way to know for sure ?
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When I had my spill, I put a slight tweak in the steering.

I was 1000 miles from home, with limited tools. I took bike to a high curb and jambed the front wheel parallel against it. Then gently pushed the bar in the other direction. 12,000miles later no problems and steering is dead straight.

If you had a really hard bash and steering was a long way out, you could try a tape measure from the of the center of the front axle bolt to the center of the rear axle bolt. It should obviously be identical. If they weren't you can slacken triple tree nuts slightly and adjust that way.

You are unlikely to have bent a fork leg, (it would probably leak-so check its not). Pushing it back should cure it.

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I second what machog said. More than likely your forks/ triple clamps relationship changed. Go up to a telephone pole with your front wheel right alongside it, then 'flick' your bars HARD into the pole (the appropriate direction, of course!), then take a look if they're back to normal. This is what we used to do when I raced enduros after a "crash" (just did this a few days ago after I 'dropped' my KLR at slow speed....).
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Old 06-19-2009, 05:22 PM
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What they said; happens to us on dirtbikes all the time. On the track, we just grab the bars and push with the wheel between our legs, up against a tree or whatever. In the shop, just loosen the pinch bolts on the triple clamps and then align everything up (remembering to torque the triple clamp bolts back up, of course!)

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What they said; happens to us on dirtbikes all the time. On the track, we just grab the bars and push with the wheel between our legs, up against a tree or whatever. In the shop, just loosen the pinch bolts on the triple clamps and then align everything up (remembering to torque the triple clamp bolts back up, of course!)

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BINGO! Exactly what I was thinking!





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So I did the same thing cetzel did (low speed lay down, replaced bars). Just came back from my first test ride and was dismayed to see the bars are still out of whack - but not as bad with the new bars, at least.

First thing I did then was search the forum and found this thread. So now my question is for cetzel if he's around, did the telephone pole trick work?

I checked out the service manual and there's really nothing in there talking about fork alignment, the only thing I found was to make sure the top of the tube was 12mm above the triple clamp.

Any and all wisdom appreciated...
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On my KLR I've loosened the pinch bolts holding the fork at the steering head and worked the suspension up & down to get things lining up better. Nothing bent, just a little tweaked.
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So I did the same thing cetzel did (low speed lay down, replaced bars). Just came back from my first test ride and was dismayed to see the bars are still out of whack - but not as bad with the new bars, at least.

First thing I did then was search the forum and found this thread. So now my question is for cetzel if he's around, did the telephone pole trick work?

I checked out the service manual and there's really nothing in there talking about fork alignment, the only thing I found was to make sure the top of the tube was 12mm above the triple clamp.

Any and all wisdom appreciated...
I'm still here. It worked. I used a curb in my dad's neighborhood to straighten the bars. took some trial and error and I had to be careful not to scratch the rim.

Not 100% but close enough that it only annoys me if I stare at the bars while riding ... but then I have other problems if I'm staring at the bars.

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I'll be damned but that telephone pole trick did it! It might still be off a hair but I'll be doing the loosen-pinch-bolt/squash-fork-a-couple-times/torque-pinch-bolt process just for piece of mind next rainy weekend.
Thanks cetzel and Baron650! I owe ya
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