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shorter kickstand options?

I'm planning to lower my Versys with Speedy's link. I want to avoid cutting the side stand though just in case I ever sell the bike I want to be able to return it to stock.

So can anyone help me with what stands I should be trolling ebay for?

I've heard the er6n standcan work. What about other Ninjas? From what years?

Also will I be able to reuse my spring or do I need to find a stand with spring?

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Er6n is the naked version of ninja 650r in the US. Both kickstands are the same and will work as direct bolt on replacement for a lowered versys.

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I picked one up on ebay from a Ninja 650. Forget what year, I think 2012 or 2011 and I have a 2013 Versys. Bolted right up, and is about an inch shorter than the V's. I think it came with springs, but it looked as though I could have used the ones I had.
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Thanks. I've got an '09 Versys. From looking at Kawasaki.com it appears that the side stand was the same part for '07-'09 but changed in 2010. It sounds like my best bet is to find a 650 Ninja (or Er-6N) from that same time period.
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I bought a ninja650r kickstand from ebay. When you the lowering kit, let Speedy's team know what kickstand you have if you order the flat foot. When I ordered mine they made sure I got the correct part.
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How much is a shorter kickstand needed? I have no plans to lower my 08' V but I hate how far the bike leans over on the kickstand. I usually keep it on the rear race stand in the garage because of how far it leans, and takes up a lot more space as it leans over.

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How much is a shorter kickstand needed? I have no plans to lower my 08' V but I hate how far the bike leans over on the kickstand. I usually keep it on the rear race stand in the garage because of how far it leans, and takes up a lot more space as it leans over.
I've heard a couple comments like this, but far more people complain about how upright the bike sits when parked. Maybe it depends on the year? Or suspension settings? Or just personal preference?

I find my '09 sits very upright when parked. Once lowered, I don't expect the side stand to work at all. As it is, the stand sometimes touches ground about halfway to being fully extended. I have to lean the bike a little right, then swing it the rest of the way out and set the bike down.
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[QUOTE=Topper;423330]I've heard a couple comments like this, but far more people complain about how upright the bike sits when parked. Maybe it depends on the year? Or suspension settings? Or just personal preference?
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I just went down to the garage, and took this picture of my bike. I also measured the distance between where the bike extends to operate, am fully extended out. The difference is over a foot for my bike. neither of the two min jus, or my father's shadow lean nearly as much as my V.
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Yeah, mine's nowhere near that far leaned over. Looks like you raised the front fender. Are those stock tire sizes? Taller tires would make you lean over more.

Anyway, I'll definitely have to shorten my side stand when I lower my bike. I'll be on the look out for a 08-09 Ninja (or Er6n) stand.

Thanks for the help!
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Yeah, mine's nowhere near that far leaned over. Looks like you raised the front fender. Are those stock tire sizes? Taller tires would make you lean over more.

Anyway, I'll definitely have to shorten my side stand when I lower my bike. I'll be on the look out for a 08-09 Ninja (or Er6n) stand.

Thanks for the help!
Everything about the dimensions of the bike is stock except the footpeg lowering from Speedy. I just like the look of the raised fenders of SM bikes so I made a setup.

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[quote=HAWKSHOT99;423498][QUOTE=Topper;423330]I've heard a couple comments like this, but far more people complain about how upright the bike sits when parked. Maybe it depends on the year? Or suspension settings? Or just personal preference?
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I just went down to the garage, and took this picture of my bike. I also measured the distance between where the bike extends to operate, am fully extended out. The difference is over a foot for my bike. neither of the two min jus, or my father's shadow lean nearly as much as my V.
HAWKSHOT99 - what did you make your "fork-lowers protectors" from? Pictures from the side, please.

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Found a kickstand from a 2009 ER650C on Ebay for $12!

I'll try and take some before/after pics of how my bike sits on the side stand. Just have to wait for the stand and lowering link to arrive.
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I've heard a couple comments like this, but far more people complain about how upright the bike sits when parked. Maybe it depends on the year? Or suspension settings? Or just personal preference?


HAWKSHOT99 - what did you make your "fork-lowers protectors" from? Pictures from the side, please.
Made them from plastic sewer pipe. I think it was 3" diameter? I used a table saw to cut the pipe in half and then cut to length. Then used a blow torch to soften up the plastic, and opened up the radius of the pipe a bit. Then used a router on all edges to smooth and round them off.
For mounting I used the stock fender mounts. Built a bracket out of aluminum L-brackets and painted.
I am away from my bike for a few days, but will take some close up pics when I get home end of the week.

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So here's my V on the side stand. It looks pretty different from HawkShot99's.

This is stock stand, stock tires, etc. In order to take the pic I had to turn it around which put the foot on a piece of flooring that's a little less than 1/4 inch thick.

If there's any sort of uneven ground (and there always is) the bike feels very tipsy.

I've got my lowering link and er-6 stand ordered. Hopefully that'll get the bike and stand at about the right height for me.
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Wow. Quite a difference. Hope you didnt think I was calling you a liar or anything like that. As you aaw in my pic, there is no need to lean it over more.

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Didn't think you were calling me a liar, but I do think this shows that the guy welding these on at the factory could have used a little more supervision.
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The kickstand from the ER650C went on perfectly. With the lowering link and dropping the forks it puts the bike at a nice comfortable lean when parked.

I did discover something while lowering my forks that may explain the lack of lean with the stock stand.

The left fork was lower on my bike than the right. I'd estimate it was off by about 3/16" I can imagine that might interfere with the side stand's ability to do it's job.

It's all fixed now and I'm loving the new height of the bike. It's raining, so no ride yet and no pics.

But I'll take a few pics of the new lean angle once the sun comes out.
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Talk about lean. The rear of my bikes been lowered not the front. Stock kickstand and i use this to take out some of the lean....


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Do you put the block in the cup-holder when you ride. lol
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