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Reliability with PC and Arrow full exhaust?

Going this Saturday to pick up the V and already am juggling between going with better performance or more utility (v35's). Thinking I'm going to give the initial nod to performance

Going this route, I'm obviously thinking full arrow and PCIII. My question is without a dyno tune is the Akropovic map found on the powercommander site suitable? Is there any reason for it to effect the longevity of the motor? The last thing I want is to install something that will shorten how long I get to ride the wheels off of this thing!

If anyone has a different map please let me know where I can find it (why don't we have a sticky for PC maps here anyhow?) or input on the Akro map.

Yes i did read the full arrow exhaust thread BTW. I'm looking for something conclusive.

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Whoops! Mods please move to Performance Discussion. Posted at too early a time!
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There are a few maps floating around besides the Akra. I started a PCIII map thread a while ago, but it never really took off, and is buried deep now.

Folks are generally happy to share. I am running one that is spot on (sea level) with a corked Arrow (full system) and generally good for an uncorked, although it could be richer.

Personally, I would wait a bit, and get the PC V with the auto tune device. It is like the Bazazz units which continuously adjust fuel to match your preset air/fuel ratio. Pretty slick. Not cheap.

You will need the Power Commander software to DL the map, but here's one.
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Hey red. anyplace posted where I can hear the full arrow on a versys?

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Hey red. anyplace posted where I can hear the full arrow on a versys?
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Although it sounds louder there than it is.

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thanks red. so zero to ten scale for volume. ten would be those open harleys that make your teeth hurt. zero being stock v. where would you put it. thanks again for all your info

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thanks red. so zero to ten scale for volume. ten would be those open harleys that make your teeth hurt. zero being stock v. where would you put it. thanks again for all your info

It's hard to say really, and what follows is without the DB killed. Putting along maybe only a 0 or 1...WOT, maybe a 6 or 7... moderate acceleration maybe a 2-3. It seems to have gotten quieter as it's aged, and I have heard that unlike most other aftermarket cans, you don't have to repack Arrow. I have ~ 4000K on mine now, and definitely no need to repack anywhere in sight.

It should only add 1 db at 4000 rpm. Hardly noticeable really, and that's pretty much been my experience. I was quite worried about excessive noise as well. When I first installed the kit, I had a small air leak, which, as it turned out, made the whole thing quite a bit noisier. I ran the can with the DB killer in at first, as originally it was too loud, but it settled down over time, and once I fixed the air leak, it quieted right down. I no longer run the DB killer, and no one seems to notice me, unless I nail the gas. You don't need to worry about it being too loud, and it adds a really nice grumble and rumble to the motor.

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Thanks Red. Being a drummer I like to hear it! I aways wear earplugs when playing however. So a nice low rumle would be nice.

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Hey Red what map is this? Is it something you got after a dyno tune or something you created?

Up in the air regarding the PC. I really want to pick up the full arrow but am curious if the PC is required. Since the bike is already lean from the factory I'm afraid premature wear may occur without the PC. Any truth to this?

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Hey Red what map is this? Is it something you got after a dyno tune or something you created?

Up in the air regarding the PC. I really want to pick up the full arrow but am curious if the PC is required. Since the bike is already lean from the factory I'm afraid premature wear may occur without the PC. Any truth to this?

O.K. ten questions is over!!
It's a map PC sent me. The bike ran well with just the exhaust. I wasn't seeing any signs of it being too lean. It does move the torque curve up some, and changes the characteristics of the bike, you will loose some of the mid range you now have (3-5000rpm), but it will then come on very strong till almost redline. The PC really completes the package. Stronger pull everywhere. If you don't intend to get a PC or other fuel management, why not just go for a slip on?

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