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Wind noise? Who knew?

So it's August in Texas. I went out for a Sunday morning ride. Its a fine Sunday morning, but it starts getting hot late A.M. I'm not going into any detail, but an hour into the ride, my crotch starts to get sweaty. So I'm on a country road and I stand up to air things off a bit. Low and behold not only do I cool my "buds" off but I notice all that wind noise I thought was normal just ceases to exist. I mean, it gets so quiet when I stood up (~60 MPH) I could hear the chain for the first time. I sat down. Very noisy again. I stood up.... quiet. Very quiet again. I sat down, tucked behind the windscreen and it got sorta quiet. Sat up, and heard the old what I thought was "normal" wind noise. Stood up again and it was fantastically quiet again. I did this experiment several more times and have come to the conclusion the stock windscreen causes wind turbulence which makes for quite a racket. I wear a full face helmet and ear plugs. (rated 32db) So I'm throwing the question out there.... are there fellow riders that have found an aftermarket screen that can give me the peace of quiet that I never knew I could enjoy until this accidental discovery this morning? Now I want that quiet while seated and traveling at 70-80 mph. Is it possible? Anyone else have this discovery?
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So I'm throwing the question out there.... are there fellow riders that have found an aftermarket screen that can give me the peace of quiet that I never knew I could enjoy until this accidental discovery this morning? Now I want that quiet while seated and traveling at 70-80 mph. Is it possible? Anyone else have this discovery?
Many many many threads about windshields and too many variables to answer your question. Some members have tried several before finding one that works for them. I purchased the OEM tall from a forum member and it works great for me.


Sorry I could not be more help, but just because this works for me does not mean it is the one for you.
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Several members swear by no windscreen at all... stock or otherwise.

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No matter which windscreen you try, there will always be buffeting and turbulence because of its upright angle... I switched to a Mike's Shields custom 16.5" tall tinted winscreen. I completely fixed the deafening buffeting and wobble, by tilting the windscreen back as much as possible without it hitting hand guards at full steering lock, by cutting, milling, drilling, and remounting the halves with bolted steel plates. It's now also better tucked in closer to fairing. Looks great and works perfectly.



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I'm very concerned about those noises and with the different bikes I had I've tested many solutions. On my experience:
No windshield (even better a naked bike) is great, but then riding for long time is uncomfortable.
It takes $$$$$$ and time to find the correct windshield.
The helmet is as important as the windshield about noise.
The jacket you use also changes buffeting/noise. In my case a tight one usually works better than a relaxed fit. The same with trousers.
The wind coming from below usually bodders a lot.
I'm resigned that only in big tourers (BMW R1200RT, R1200GS ADV, Honda PanEuropean) you really get a nice wind protection. On small-medium bikes forget about it, you can improve comfort, but never equal those big tourers.
Good luck finding the best setup.

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I still have a stock screen and plenty of noise. The calsci screens look interesting, if a bit weird. No experience, but they look like function over style.

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In another thread, we talk about moving the stock screen up so that the bottom two holes are bolted to the top two holes on the mounts. I have at least 80% less noise and buffeting. It only cost me a couple of bucks to make something to help hold the bottom of the screen in place.

My daily 20 mile commute, (3/4 highway) is now very very nice.

I have also ridden without the screen, I liked it, too.

I'm in South Park colorado on vacation, so I have crappy cell coverage and can't find the thread, but check it out!!

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Warning Calsci screens are great but way to heavy for V! 10+

Problem I had also was what invader talked about. Mirrors, handlebars, ect.

Givi medium right now. Good light and handlebars don't hit.

Still buffeting not bad but not perfect!





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Thanks for the tips. I suppose I need to find some threads on windscreens and start studying. I wish there was a dealer that had a good refund policy or windscreen rental available. Shame that if I buy something for style it might not "work". I'll check out the links and mfg's y'all have offered up. I hope to someday soon find a good looking yet functional solution. Funny, just yesterday I didn't even know I could use a better windscreen. Now I feel its all of a sudden a necessity! Thanks again to every one.
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Thanks for the tips. I suppose I need to find some threads on windscreens and start studying. I wish there was a dealer that had a good refund policy or windscreen rental available. Shame that if I buy something for style it might not "work". I'll check out the links and mfg's y'all have offered up. I hope to someday soon find a good looking yet functional solution. Funny, just yesterday I didn't even know I could use a better windscreen. Now I feel its all of a sudden a necessity! Thanks again to every one.

If you buy a windscreen that doesn't work for you you can sell it here. It will work for someone else. I've bought and sold several. Same thing with seats.

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I figure that if I was worried about wind noise I would drive my car. Then again, there are cars out there that really reduce "road noise." My cars tend to be a bit noisy. I am happy to partake in the environment that I am in.

I will say that I do use foam earplugs for longer rides.

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I wore earplugs when riding extended periods of time at highway speeds until I got my Givi windscreen. Now I have no need for the plugs. I'm 5' 10" and 150 lbs, your body size and mileage may vary.
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I just took mine off and removed the mounting brackets. Feels more like a baby hooligan now. 75mph pushed back on me well enough when I lean forward and it keeps me at a good lean angle without any effort and wind noise is the same. My wife agrees it looks better windshield-less. It almost feels like I get less shake in my HJC IS-16 helmet I daily ride with without the shield. I am seeing about a 2-3mpg drop without it but I ride 90% city so whatevs.

Have you tried sitting a little back on the part of the seat that angles up toward the rear, putting you chest on the tank perform the ricky racer full tuck? It will help keep the noise down until you cramp up or shart yourself I ride the 35 from south austin to round rock once every week or two and I find if the wind noise irritates me if I forget my plugs/headphones a full tuck will help out. I also went from a no name helmet to at least a low end somewhat name brand helmet and that cured 50% of my wind noise issues.
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It was an accidental discovery that it might be possible to get a quieter ride by changing the wind screen. I'm not complaining.... just seeking improvement. My ear plugs work fine to keep the noise down to a tollerable level. However, now that I know its possible to reduce the noise, (buffeting isn't even an issue for this 5'8" guy) I'm going to try some changes.
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It was an accidental discovery that it might be possible to get a quieter ride by changing the wind screen. I'm not complaining.... just seeking improvement. My ear plugs work fine to keep the noise down to a tollerable level. However, now that I know its possible to reduce the noise, (buffeting isn't even an issue for this 5'8" guy) I'm going to try some changes.
I bought mine with a Givi. Added the RoboBrackets. Didn't change things much. Then tried the big CalSci. Good for the winter months but sill not that nice quiet pocket. Next is going back to an OEM screen with OE brackets and see what happens. I've also tried no screen at all and again, not much improvement. I ride with a Bell Vortex. Tried adding a NOJ Quiet Rider that was very effective on prior helmets. Again, minimal if any change. All this tells me it is most likely my helmet and it's design. Neck roll and chin curtain work well so the noise has to be coming from elsewhere. I'm 6'5". Added bar risers and extra seat height, so everything if different. But of course that is my issue.

Seems yours is related to the screen more so than the helmet. You can try no screen at all. Or maybe what you need is a cut down OEM screen. Lots of good threads out there for research.
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I use the tall MRA Vario touring screen. It works very well, and the adjustable winglet makes it possible to alter the characteristics to suit different height riders.

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I'm 6'5". Added bar risers and extra seat height, so everything if different. But of course that is my issue.
Yeah, I'd think the Givi is not tall enough for a 6'5" height. I'm
5'10" and I'd like an inch taller screen, but it's still a massive improvement
for the stock screen for my height. Above 6' though and you'll
need something else.
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I have no idea why so many of you U.S. rider who live in hot climates ride with huge screen. I ride without any screen during the summer, and with the stock seat and custom "flat" mounting brackets during the rest of the year. Keeps your helmet in clear air = silence!

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I have no idea why so many of you U.S. rider who live in hot climates ride with huge screen. I ride without any screen during the summer, and with the stock seat and custom "flat" mounting brackets during the rest of the year. Keeps your helmet in clear air = silence!
I use the German MRA Vario touring screen, and I look over the top. Adjusted correctly, my head is in still air, and there's no noise to speak of.

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This is probably the #2 topic among Tiger 1050 riders, headlights being #1.

The MadStad system for either bike works very, very well for cutting turbulence and noise, but restricts airflow in hot climates and lets face it...the aesthetics aren't the greatest.

A lot of guys run a cut-down windscreen - going lower instead of higher - with great results. I actually just run the MadStad baseplate on the Tiger without the shield right now, and it's quite comfortable.

Good luck. This is a deeply personal and difficult problem to sort out.
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