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Dunlop D221 SportMax tires - comparables

Hi guys,

If you had to replace a rear tire, did you just go with the stock Dunlop D221 Sportmax that came with the '09 Versys, or would you try to find a comparable?

Guy can get it for me for 209.00; vs. the Dunlop price of 269.00? (forget)

I'd plug it, but it's a 1/2 inch slit (noticed in garage after a ride), not a perfect nail hole.

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Get rid of that Dunlop! I upgraded a bit to the Michelin PR-2s and have been super happy with them. They feel a huge amount more 'stuck' to the road in both wet and dry. You'll not find too many people here that would stick with the stockers, if given the option. During my research the consensus for a fully street tire good both wet and dry seemed to be the Michelin PR3s, PR2s, and the Metzeler Z8s. Let us know what you go with and what you think.


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I second the PR2. I put them on last year and LOVE them. Surprisingly they were pretty good on dirt roads to!

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Those prices are too high, for either tire. You can do better.
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i got the bridgestone BT 023 at 120$ on ebay its as good as PR2's
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PR3's are fine too. Nuke the Dunlops - you'll be amazed at the difference with any of these alternatives.

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Michelin PR3 or Pirelli GT. Ignore the slightly higher price. They also last longer and grip better.
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Thanks guys, was hoping to do better than 209.00, too. Love this forum. Will let you know how I make out and if having just one non-stock on the rear makes a noticable diff.

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I know some of you mentioned plugging it, which I'm so tempted to do now since the best price I seem to get on the PR2s is 170.00 (since the guy who can put it on prefers to get them through his shop), retail 239.00. Also, if I buy it online, want to charge me 90-100.00 to put it on for labor instead of 60-70.00. Add picking up the bike for 50.00 and I'm just a bit annoyed.

Will see if there are any better deals at other local shops if any.
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You can save some $ by removing the wheel yourself and bringing it into the shop that will change your tire. When you get the new one, remember to recheck the tire pressure before riding and go easy on it for 100 miles or so, until it gets scrubbed in and heat cycled.
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Do you know which tire they are referring to when they say they don't have the PR2 or PR3 but have the Pilot Standard? Is that the Activ? For 180.00.

@Trialsguy - No jack of any kind. Tools minimal. Experience, 0.

Found a place that will pick up for 10.00 (to pay for the gas), labor 54.00, tire 180 (but a Michelin Pilot "standard"?)

It was the "Power" (170.00). Just checked. Few places told me if you buy online you may be getting a 1.5-2 year old tire and they won't stand by it. FWIW

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Do you know which tire they are referring to when they say they don't have the PR2 or PR3 but have the Pilot Standard? Is that the Activ? For 180.00.

@Trialsguy - No jack of any kind. Tools minimal. Experience, 0.

Found a place that will pick up for 10.00 (to pay for the gas), labor 54.00, tire 180 (but a Michelin Pilot "standard"?)

It was the "Power" (170.00). Just checked. Few places told me if you buy online you may be getting a 1.5-2 year old tire and they won't stand by it. FWIW
Sounds like it's time to go to Harbor Freight and get you a paddock stand, then prepare to get dirty! It's easier than you think, and there's a great thread on here somewhere with step by step instructions.
I would not recommend the Powers, they are more of a street/race tire and very soft - mucho fun, but melt like butta. PR2s or 3s are def the way to go - they last sooo much longer and have fantastic grip. Just ordered a set of 3s for my "other brand" (BMW, and NO, I don't ride with my pinkie in the air, ha!) - was $300 for the pair incl shipping. We have found that PRs are the most economical tire by the time you factor in your mileage. The Dunlops just plain suck- you'll think you have a new and improved bike once you toss those suckers.

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In comparing the PR2 with the PR3, I've heard that the PR3 rear tire seems to wear and "square off" quicker than the PR2. Has anyone else here noticed that? I'm leaning toward replacing my RoadSmarts with the PR2 when replacement time comes.
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You can buy a sport touring tire in the appropriate size from motorcycle superstore, and have them ship it to one of their preferred installers in your neighborhood. There are plenty in MA. Call the installer first of course.
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For the love of god burn those dunflops! Completely different bike with fresh (good) tread on there.

Stuff I've had experience with:

PR2s- nice grip, decent mileage, the boring obvious choice 3s I've also used, didn't notice much change in wet traction IMO but the 2s were great in wet as it is

Pirelli Angel STs- awesome grip tire, but don't expect sport touring mileage. By far the stickiest tire I've used. If I could get 3k more out of a rear I'd be 5/5 happy with them

My new Shinko Raven 009s- so far they feel similar to the Pirellis. Although admittedly I haven't logged very many road miles or pushed them yet. On a side note they're more stable (rear grip wise) offroad than the Angels or PRs (YES CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF SOME OF US ARE NUTS ENOUGH TO USE IT OFFROAD )

Will update when I get more miles on the shinko, still gotta get the V registered and inspected lol


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Just go ahead and change both front and rear to Shinko 009 for $180. You will not regret it.

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