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Electric bike for the masses?

This is somewhat interesting...
http://www.enertiabike.com/content/blogsection/2/34/

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I like the idea. I'm super excited to see if they will be making this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUXhJZZRUIg

Reminds me of Akira and brings me back to my childhood.

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So far these things are a joke. 50 mph top speed. 35-45 mile range. 33 inch seat height. I am an old man but give me a 250 cc scooter first.
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They will get better it is just a mater of time. It is still early into battery development for these bikes. 50 mph and 35-45 mile range would get me to work and back.

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If you don't get run over first. Are you going to trade in your Versys for one? Or are you going to put your life savings into this company? So far these are just hype and nothing more. Let's be serious, green is good and so is saving money but did you notice that no mention was made of availability or price? Thats because they cost twice as much, so where is the savings; not to mention the fun?
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They will get better it is just a mater of time. It is still early into battery development for these bikes. 50 mph and 35-45 mile range would get me to work and back.
I don't think the battery bike is neccesarily a feasabile option with current battery technology. What might be is a Hydrogen Fuel cell bike.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4353853.stm
this has been doing the rounds for several years, although it hasn't come to market. undoubtedly the main problem is going to be the supply network for Hydrogen. I can also see the politicians reacting in fear att eh idea of a Hydrogen powered bike
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These guys are a bit out of left field.. based on a custom made MTB frame and
internal G/Box "like a mountain bike on steroids" as they say.
http://www.stealthelectricbikes.com.au/
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I'll divorce my V for something like this:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ne...ike/index.html

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In today's technocracy world, consumers have very little to say and it all about economic.
Battery technology is fast gaining ground and its a matter of time before these are in the market.

Just go back a few year and how big was Motorola Hand phone, and compare that with today hand phones.
Its the big Oil companies that holding these development back. Given a time frame when we run into serious problem then its all going to be battery or Hydrogen powered.
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So far these things are a joke. 50 mph top speed. 35-45 mile range. 33 inch seat height. I am an old man but give me a 250 cc scooter first.
Depends on where you live. Here in texas I would not even think about it but there are many parts of the world where 50 mph is fast and 35 miles is far.
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So far these things are a joke. 50 mph top speed. 35-45 mile range. 33 inch seat height. I am an old man but give me a 250 cc scooter first.
The Empulse on the first link is 100 mph and up to 100 mile range

The 60 mile range version is under $10k and "Since the Empulse is a 100% electric vehicle, customers are eligible for government tax incentives at the State and Federal level, including a 10% Federal income tax credit. "

I like the other riders comparison to cell phones - they will only get better over time.

Although I have had Miss Jaffa (Burnt Orange 2007 Versys) for a while, I still have a lot to learn.


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These guys have been at it for a while now, and are selling commercially here in Canader... i don't now about the US... but you guys always get the cool bikes after us!

http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-s-specs.php

And a video... MotorcycleUSA ZERO Test Ride

I like the idea of stepping away from dyno fuel, and there is a new generation of Lithium Ion batter MIT is working on that recharges in a fraction of the time conventional batteries do, and that leap forward will make alternatives a reality.

I think these guys are really on to something as well. http://www.betterplace.com/ They make car ownership and battery ownership a separate issue, and have refueling stations that swap the batteries for a fully charged unit in just over a minute. They have joined with Renault who have invested a billion into making a fleet of new, conventional looking vehicles to work with this technology... and it's coming to market now.

The genius of Better Place is that it separates car and battery ownership. You buy the car, then rent the bateries on a cell phone like contract based on mileage and use. For heavy consumers like taxis, some municipal vehicles, and even those who use their vehicle a lot, the car can be had for free if an extensive enough battery contract is needed... much like your cell phone today. You can charge the car conventionally at home or on long trips, pull into a switch station and get a new battery.

Here is a video of their idea in action. It's pretty slick.



I used to think Hydrogen was the bees knees, but the logistics of it are difficult to overcome, and seeing as how the plans are to produce it using fossil fuels as it's base, just puts me off the whole idea. Electricity just makes more sense.

There is a company in the UK who are designing rechargable batteries that are so durable, maleable and flexible that they can be constructed into whatever needs their energy. In other words, the body of your cell phone might be it's rechargable energy source in the near future, and this can be applied to much larger things as well.

I am looking forward to when they make roofing shingles a connectible solar device that feeds the grid.

Exciting stuff.

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solar shingles they are a reality now.

http://news.dow.com/dow_news/manufac.../20100203a.htm
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