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Hot tire????

Hello there. I'm am new to the world of motorcycle so my question might sound stupid to some.
After riding for extended periods of time at high speed my tires feel like "melted rubber". When the tires are cold and I rock the bike from right to left with my hips it stays grounded and feels rock solid on the ground. But when I do the same with the tires hot, it feels like the rear tire is "floating" from side to side. I don't have that nice connection to the ground and it feels gummy. I never had a problem with the bike sliding or anything but I don't really like the sensation and was wondering if this is normal.
The tires are the stock tires that came with the bike.

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G'Day Frenchy,

What is the air pressure when it is cold?
Any markings on the manufactured week of which year?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=33

I assume the present tyres are the stock factory Dunlop tyres?

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G'Day Frenchy,

What is the tyre pressure when it is cold?

When was the tyre manufactured (which week of which year)?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=33

I assume the tyres are the stock factory Dunlops?

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I have to admit that I don't know what pressure I have in the tires. I did the first inspection and they checked the pressure then.
I couldn't find the info to find the week and year of manufacture.
And yes, they are the factory Dunlops
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Hot gummy tires are a good thing when you go round corners. Race bikes have heated jackets to warm up the tire before a start of a race. You'll often see 'Ricky Racers' swerving from side to side before they tackle some twisty roads to warm up the outer walls. I have put a laser temp gauge on my tires and on a hot day they are well over 100 after a ride.

Recommended pressures are 32lbs front and 36lbs rear-I would stick to that, at least until you know the bike better.

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Hi Frenchy.

Info of tyre manufactured are stated on the tyre.
Kindly refer to http://www.northstaffstyreandbattery.co.uk/5.html. Item no.8.

Try giving a check on your tire pressures as Machog pointed out.

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yeah air pressure is critical. i just noticed that mine were low today and i pumped them up and the bike feels much better now in the corners. the bike is much more stable now

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All right... The markings say: 9JTM4408. So I would assume that the tires were made in the 44th week of 08? The bike is a new 09 so it would make sense
Thanks for your replies guys.
I knew that hot tires have better grip, it just that the sliding feel they give me are quite the opposite of a strong grip with the road.
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it just that the sliding feel they give me are quite the opposite of a strong grip with the road.
You pressure is too low. You need to check it often. I check mine almost daily during the peak riding season.
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I checked the pressure and it seems fine. 32-36
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How many miles are on them. Is it possible that you were leaning over further and riding on fresh rubber that hasn't been scrubbed any?
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I have 2400 miles on them.
The "sliding" feelings happens when I have the bike upright and rock it from side to side with my hips. It feels like the rear wheel starts to slide sideways.
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any noticeable flattening on the center of the tire (say for someone that commutes a lot)?

The transition from the flatter center to the curved outer edges can give a disconnected feel while riding.
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Nop, the tire shows a nice rounded wear
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Dirty garage floor?
Joking.
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How 'bout a loose swingarm pivot bolt or axle? Just throwing things out there......
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How 'bout a loose swingarm pivot bolt or axle? Just throwing things out there......
Or possibly a chain thats too tight not allowing the swingarm full movement????
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Hi Frenchy,

If all efforts fail, IMHO, change your tyres to a tyre your like and suits your style.
After having a few stock tyre twitches, my 1st mod for my 2nd hand V was changing the tyres. A new pair of shoes, I say.

Changed to Bridgestone BT021 and this transformed the V.
IMHO. for my hot and humid climate here, the BT021 suits the Malaysia's road very well.

Something I always do is feel the tyres with my hands after a distance.
On mine, it feels warm and should not be abnormally hot.
I take this as a gauge of the tyre's condition and performance.
After a while, when you have a better feeling for your bike and tyres, you will know if anything is wrong by instinct.

Hope you enjoy your ride..

Ride Fast and Safe.
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Great tip bro. And I like your "Ride Fast and Safe" motto, which am finding it difficult to achieve...I guess it comes with lots of experience.
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Bro,

We all start somewhere.
IMHO, wearing your PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) is the 1st rule of all.
Always ride to a speed comfortable to yourself and suiting the conditions.

Don't worry about speed. Technique is more important.
Try reading A Twist of the Wrist II by Keith Code. Excellent guidance.

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