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Recently replaced my stock front brake pads with EBC HH pads ($100CDN) after 21,000km. Original pads were worn enough for the mechanic to fail them on my mandatory safety inspection. The new pads offer an improvement in braking feel and are easier to modulate the braking force. They are much less grabby on initial application and the relationship between lever pressure and braking force is much more linear. Anyone else notice this?

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I just replaced the stocks pads after 15,000 miles for vesrah brake pads and the differance is night and day. The mechanic gave me the old ones because they were in such good shape to use if needed. The old ones are going in the garbage. I try not to use my brakes much. I get alot of people that follow me through the canyons and twisties that comment that i hardly hit my brakes. I like to use throttle control as much as possible.

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Recently replaced my stock front brake pads with EBC HH pads ($100CDN) after 21,000km. Original pads were worn enough for the mechanic to fail them on my mandatory safety inspection. The new pads offer an improvement in braking feel and are easier to modulate the braking force. They are much less grabby on initial application and the relationship between lever pressure and braking force is much more linear. Anyone else notice this?
I just bought EBC organic brake pads today. Hopefully I like them as much as both of you like new pads. I have 25000 miles on my stockers.

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I just replaced the stocks pads after 15,000 miles for vesrah brake pads and the differance is night and day.
I also replaced the crappy stock pads with Vesrah RJLs. Only I did it before I even had 100 miles on the bike. Put on steel braided lines, too. Made the brakes much better. Coming from sportbikes with the latest and greatest brakes, I couldn't stand the Versys' brakes. Now they're quite tolerable!
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I also replaced the crappy stock pads with Vesrah RJLs. Only I did it before I even had 100 miles on the bike. Put on steel braided lines, too. Made the brakes much better. Coming from sportbikes with the latest and greatest brakes, I couldn't stand the Versys' brakes. Now they're quite tolerable!

Yep i put the Galpher SS Lines on last year. Made an improvement but the pads were a bigger improvement.

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I may need to do this upgrade. I got on the brakes yesterday from about 60mph and felt like I was never going to stop. Was a disconcerting feeling...

Weljo.. got a link to what you bought? I did a quick google search but didn't turn up a version that went on the V.


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Tried EBC HH but Versah is better. Try the Sintered Metal Pad one.
http://catalog.vesrah.co.jp/list/brake.asp

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Hah... Good to hear about the obvious improvement with Vesrah pads... I had already put Vesrah pads on my new Versys for some reason, without ever trying the stock Tokico pads which are also HH but of a visibly very different compound.

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Vesrah (Japan) Brake pad listing: http://catalog.vesrah.co.jp/list/street_brake.asp
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Vesrah also has racing brake pads available in RJL, SRJL 17, and SRJL 8 compounds, as listed for EX-650 (#VD-354).

http://www.vesrah.com/new_page_56.htm

http://www.vesrah.com/new_page_42.htm

I like my Motul DOT 5.1 brake fluid as well, by the way.

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Galfer. Two line setup, one line from the master to each caliper with no T-junction. I ordered from solomotoparts.com because they have the color selection available and I wanted black lines. I have a '13, but the lines and pads they list for the '08-'10 fit. So do the Pazzo levers, I put those on, too!

I also had a double banjo bolt laying around that has a bleeder on it. Very helpful to also be able to bleed at the MC as well as the calipers. I forget where I purchased it, it was many years ago, but they're probably still around somewhere.
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Vesrah also has racing brake pads available in RJL, SRJL 17, and SRJL 8 compounds, as listed for EX-650 (#VD-354).

http://www.vesrah.com/new_page_56.htm

http://www.vesrah.com/new_page_42.htm

I like my Motul DOT 5.1 brake fluid as well, by the way.

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Yes, I went with the RJLs. I got them from street and comp:
Right caliper http://www.streetandcomp.com/store/i...352RJL&eq=&Tp=

Left caliper http://www.streetandcomp.com/store/i...435RJL&eq=&Tp=

I've been using the RJLs for quite some time on my trackbike and have been happy with the performance, so I wanted the RJLs over Vesrah's other sintered pads.

The Motul DOT5.1 is good stuff. I put in the Motul 600RBF. Normally I don't use that in my street bikes, but the bottle was opened from doing the trackbike.
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Galfer. Two line setup, one line from the master to each caliper with no T-junction. I ordered from solomotoparts.com because they have the color selection available and I wanted black lines. I have a '13, but the lines and pads they list for the '08-'10 fit. So do the Pazzo levers, I put those on, too!

I also had a double banjo bolt laying around that has a bleeder on it. Very helpful to also be able to bleed at the MC as well as the calipers. I forget where I purchased it, it was many years ago, but they're probably still around somewhere.
I have the black Galfer lines also (two line setup, no cross-line or "T"), and am very satisfied with them....love the ample "wave" in the rear line as well...got them from podiumsuperbikeinc on eBay. Pads are next.
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Tweaking the front suspension also seemed to help braking, and handling too. I'm 190lb with gear and increased damping to 1.5 turns from max and preload to 6 turns from max. Still experimenting with this but the slight increase helped reduce front dive and front/rear pogoing while braking.

I did this on the advice of my shop after I mentioned how fast my front tires were wearing.
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I may need to do this upgrade. I got on the brakes yesterday from about 60mph and felt like I was never going to stop. Was a disconcerting feeling...

Weljo.. got a link to what you bought? I did a quick google search but didn't turn up a version that went on the V.

Heres the pads i got...http://www.oemcycle.com/Cart?rnd=1367947170

Galpher SS Brake lines i got from a seller on ebay but i didn't see them listed today

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Tweaking the front suspension also seemed to help braking, and handling too. I'm 190lb with gear and increased damping to 1.5 turns from max and preload to 6 turns from max. Still experimenting with this but the slight increase helped reduce front dive and front/rear pogoing while braking.

I did this on the advice of my shop after I mentioned how fast my front tires were wearing.
hey twowheels.....how did that suspension change go? Is it helping to control the bike and ride better?

prolly too early toget a tire reading unless you are racking up BIGTIME MILES

but a question on your previous tire wear; what were you running, and were they scalloping or just putting out uneven wear patterns?

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