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Got my new tire installed and went to add these via the valve stem. These created a non removable clog so now it looks like i must remove tire to install new valve. Do these work better with a particular type?

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Sounds like you're learning some things from this tire change. I don't know anything about dynabeads but it seems to me a valve stem is a valve stem. I would suggest you consider a static balancer. I got mine from Goodtime Centre for <$40 (Invader will be along soon to post a link to a cheaper one online). It's super easy to use and you can reuse the stick-on weights.

Did you check the condition of your wheel bearings when you had the front wheel off? I've had to replace mine a few times. Try an exacto knife on the old valve stem. Getting the new one in can be a bear, but Pledge helps.
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Call me old skool, but I agree with the static balancer. One thing that will help (but I admit I haven't done yet) is to find the heavy spot of the rim first, with no tire on, and mark it. Line up the light spot of the tire with that mark.

I'm personally skeptical of the dynabeads. I don't think you can feed them in through the valve stem easily. They aren't reusable from what I hear, and they make a mess when they get spilled. One guy told me there were rubber balls left inside his tire from using them - from inner carcass wear. Doesn't seem worth the hassle to me. I'm sure you'll get a lot of varying opinions. I think they cost more than weights, too? I do frequent tire changes for the track and don't want to be bothered with the cost or the mess. Because I know I'll drop them all over the floor! LOL.

As soon as I need a tire change, I'm replacing the stock rubber valve stems with some 90 degree metal ones. Makes filling a lot easier, especially the front wheel.
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I was under the impression, please correct me if I am wrong, that a valve stem must be installed from the bottom with the tire removed.
Makes sense, but I've never installed the rubber kind. I like these metal ones:
http://kurveygirl.com/shop/index.php...sort=2a&page=1
I've used the Enkei ones. Just ensure you get the right size. I think all Jap bikes are the same, but Kurveygirl could tell you. These are installed with the tire off. So much easier to fill, being angled. And since they're metal, they don't bend when you put the air hose on.
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Got my new tire installed and went to add these via the valve stem. These created a non removable clog so now it looks like i must remove tire to install new valve. Do these work better with a particular type?...
As I posted - use a short "blast" of air into the 'clog' and they'll go in.

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I'm personally skeptical of the dynabeads. I don't think you can feed them in through the valve stem easily....
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...They aren't reusable from what I hear, and they make a mess when they get spilled....
I buy mine in bulk from a supplier for about $5 a pound, and, from time-to-time I HAVE re-used them.

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...One guy told me there were rubber balls left inside his tire from using them - from inner carcass wear....
I've used them for OVER 60,000 miles, in MANY sets of tires. NEVER had rubber balls as you mention.

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...I think they cost more than weights, too? I do frequent tire changes for the track and don't want to be bothered with the cost or the mess....
Around $5 a pound? At 1 oz for the front tire, 2 oz for rears - about a BUCK per set, AND they CONSTANTLY balance the wheel as you ride.

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...A big thumbs down for the Dyna beads...I was under the impression, please correct me if I am wrong, that a valve stem must be installed from the bottom with the tire removed.
IMHO you've not given Dyna Beads a fair trial, and - YES - stems are installed from INSIDE.

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I have used Dynabeads on two bikes without incident. As long as you vibrate the valve stem as they are pouring though, you shouldn't have any problems. I just tap-tap-tap my valve stem with a screwdriver as they're being loaded through and eventually they all fall into the tire... no problems. I've got very good results from Dynabeads in my Versys and in my previous ride - a Honda ST1100.

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I buy mine in bulk from a supplier for about $5 a pound, and, from time-to-time I HAVE re-used them.



I've used them for OVER 60,000 miles, in MANY sets of tires. NEVER had rubber balls as you mention.



Around $5 a pound? At 1 oz for the front tire, 2 oz for rears - about a BUCK per set, AND they CONSTANTLY balance the wheel as you ride.



IMHO you've not given Dyna Beads a fair trial, and - YES - stems are installed from INSIDE.[/QUOTE]






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I had the same issue. Finally figured out to pour them slowly and tap the stem with a screwdriver.

I either had perfectly balanced tires already or they didn't do much. I didn't notice a difference at all.
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Turns out the Dyna beads the Motorcycle store (RPM Cycle) sold me were for trucks and will clog a valve stem. The Dyna beads motorcycle product consists of beads each the size of grain of sand. I was also told by a second dealer to lift the bead and put them in that way.
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I put car beads into my rear tire on the Voyager by lifting the upper bead while the wheel was on its' side.

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I buy mine in bulk from a supplier for about $5 a pound, and, from time-to-time I HAVE re-used them....
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are you getting them from fox industries ?
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Turns out the Dyna beads the Motorcycle store (RPM Cycle) sold me were for trucks and will clog a valve stem. The Dyna beads motorcycle product consists of beads each the size of grain of sand. I was also told by a second dealer to lift the bead and put them in that way.
I just pour them into the valve stem, and WHEN they 'clog', I just give a burst of air which sends them into the tire.

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What's it like when you change the tire with the dyna beads in?

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What's it like when you change the tire with the dyna beads in?
not a big deal .I buy in bulk so I'm not worried about trying to save and reuse the beads.They do not do anything to the rim . I change my own tires so I put them in before I finish mounting the tire . I do not have to mess with the valve stem.
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What's it like when you change the tire with the dyna beads in?
They're just in there rolling around. I sometimes vacuum them out... and sometimes i just leave them in the tire and toss them out with the carcass. I always use new ones with the new tire. If I have the new beads at tire-change time I pour them into the tire before setting the bead. If not, I add them through the stem afterwards.

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What's it like when you change the tire with the dyna beads in?
No 'biggie'. Sometimes I'll have to sweep the floor a bit when I'm done.

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No 'biggie'. Sometimes I'll have to sweep the floor a bit when I'm done.
That's cool, we do our own tires and have a Marc Parnes static balancer. In several years of balancing tires, I've only had maybe two that were dead on. That said though, I've never noticed any performance issues either. BUT, it would be nice to just pour in some beads instead of dealing with the lead weights. Thanks for the info!

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Not finding fox industries anywhere. Got a link, please?

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Here's a source: http://www.shop.shinhopples.com/prod...productId=1025

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Not finding fox industries anywhere. Got a link, please?

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you have to email or call and ask for zirconium silicate beads . If I remember correctly I paid about $6.00 a pound shipped.



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Used dynabeads by inserting them when putting on the tires onto the rims. Good product but pricey with shipping here.

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