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I'm about to attempt my first tire change. What is the best lube to use, to get the bead over the rim, when changing tires. Everyone seems to have a recommendation and some of them seem a little out there. For instance if I use water will it not leave some water inside the tire?
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I clean the inner rim with WD40 wiped off with clean rag to remove and reduce further oxidation, and also a bit of WD40 in the edge of the rim for easy tire seating.
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I use pledge, which is probably one of those "out there" suggestions, but it works really well. What are you doing to balance the wheel afterwards? I have a static balancer and weights, which I would be happy to let you try. Maybe not convenient, depending where you live. I'm in Elmvale.
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The folks who make the No Mar tire changers make a lube paste that works great. http://www.nomartirechanger.com/

That reminds me, I need to order more. Track season is approaching so I'll be changing lots of tires.

Another good option is a product called Ru-Glide which should be available in auto parts stores.
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Tire mount lubricant/paste... Interesting.

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/category_s/40.htm
http://www.agscompany.com/lubricants/canadian/213
http://www.nwsalesgroup.com/category/55.aspx
http://jtmproductsinc.net/tiremounting.html

Pledge may actually be too slippery, causing the tire to spin on the rim under heavy braking.
Soapy water corrodes aluminum, also causing leaks.
Protectants such as Armor-All, STP Son-Of-A Gun and Turtle Wax F21 do work.

Read more: http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/Bl...#ixzz2RZu10NY8
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i use a spray bottle filled with water and about 2 drops of dish washing soap in it.

The water residue appears to disapear over time. maybe it transpires / migrates through the rubber tire.
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No it doesn't... Soapy water residue corrodes and pits the aluminum rim, causing leaks.
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Huh! I wonder what most motorcycle dealers/shops use? Or is it all over the map?
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Yeah, the No-Mar lube paste works great! For mounting, it gets liberally placed on the "drop center" of the wheel, then around the edges of the tire. For demounting, you'll want to spray some on, so their paste can be diluted with water in a spray bottle. They have excellent instructional videos on their site, including where to place lube on the tire/wheel.

If I'm having difficulty I usually just need to stop and add more lube.

I don't work for NoMar, I just have one of their changers. I tried with a cheaper version changer and couldn't work it, and forget about just using spoons. Got to demo a NoMar at one of the motorcycle shows, and it sold us on it.

The NoMar works great, and I change a lot of tires during track season.

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I'm learning something new every day. I need to put on a new set of tires on my dirt bike this week. I will definately pick up some tire lube paste on my way home tonight. It sounds like the auto parts chain stores (AutoZone, O'Reilly, etc.) would sell this stuff?
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I clean the inner rim with WD40 wiped off with clean rag to remove and reduce further oxidation, and also a bit of WD40 in the edge of the rim for easy tire seating.
X 2, though generally I use tire lube that I buy from tire-changing places.

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Interesting - I stopped at Napa Auto, and O'Reilly Auto - neither of them had tire lube in stock, but said that they could order me a gallon if I really wanted it. What was interesting was... the guy behind the counter at each place said to me "Why don't you just use a little bit of dish soap and some water instead? That's what I always use."
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I'll try the RuGlide this week. I also change my offroad tires by hand. For me, the tricky part is inflating the tubless tire quickly while getting the bead to seat. I use a bicycle inner tube to fill the gap while inflating.
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Trials tires are different. They need coaxing to close the gap and hold air. Yes, I plan to warm them up. I will also put cardboard spacers in for a couple of days before hand, to splay the beads outward.
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tube type 21 inch are still a pita, but 17" wheel tire is changed faster than I can take the wheel off the bike.
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Yeah, the No-Mar lube paste works great! For mounting, it gets liberally placed on the "drop center" of the wheel, then around the edges of the tire. For demounting, you'll want to spray some on, so their paste can be diluted with water in a spray bottle. They have excellent instructional videos on their site, including where to place lube on the tire/wheel.

If I'm having difficulty I usually just need to stop and add more lube.

I don't work for NoMar, I just have one of their changers. I tried with a cheaper version changer and couldn't work it, and forget about just using spoons. Got to demo a NoMar at one of the motorcycle shows, and it sold us on it.

The NoMar works great, and I change a lot of tires during track season.

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Most Bike Shops use Soap & Water...I find it hard to believe that dish soap will not ruin Alloy Pots & Pans but will trash your powder coated Alloy Rims..
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I found out Camel Paste is made from vegetable oil. I wonder if cooking oil would work? It kind of gums up after a while which might be beneficial with tire beads.
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I'd personally stick to a product made for the intended use.
I'm thinking cooking oil would get rancid.
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