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Changing my own tires...no dots for "lightest point"

I just got my rear tire off and put the new Pirelli Scorpion on. There was no visible dot on the rear tire indicating the lightest point to align with the stem. All I could find was two small painted dots, about an inch apart. I ended up aligning the stem with those. The front tire has the same, only two vague red painted dots. The front tire also has a small red scorpion sticker on it.....I'm assuming the red dots are the lightest point areas on these tires...? I will be using dynabeads to balance(2oz. rear, 1oz. front) and just want to make sure I am being as safe as possible doing this myself.....Thanks.
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I actually bought the Counteract bead system, not "Dyna Beads" based on reviews.
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The shop used very little weight when balancing the Scorps for me.
Setting the bead on the rear was a bugger though! Big Air Required.
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The shop used very little weight when balancing the Scorps for me.
Setting the bead on the rear was a bugger though! Big Air Required.
when I had my learning adventure it took 55 psi to seat the rear bead the first time. When I corrected my previous failure it only took 25 psi to seat the bead. The difference was seating basicly dry as opposed to slightly lubed.
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This whole thing with the dots indicating the lightest spot on the tire (to be lined up with the valve stem) can be confusing and there seems to be a lot of contradictory information about it. Supposedly the Pirellis use 2 dots. Michelin doesn't use any dots. Some people say that the barcode is used instead of the dots to mark the lightest spot; others say that the barcode position means nothing and that Michelin intentionally does not mark a light spot.

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I just got my rear tire off and put the new Pirelli Scorpion on. There was no visible dot on the rear tire indicating the lightest point to align with the stem. All I could find was two small painted dots, about an inch apart. I ended up aligning the stem with those. The front tire has the same, only two vague red painted dots. The front tire also has a small red scorpion sticker on it.....I'm assuming the red dots are the lightest point areas on these tires...? I will be using dynabeads to balance(2oz. rear, 1oz. front) and just want to make sure I am being as safe as possible doing this myself.....Thanks.
The ONLY way this works, is IF the valve stem IS at the HEAVIEST point of the (your) rim. To find out - you need to put your bare wheel on a balancer and check for the heaviest place on it. I USED to do this UNTIL I started using Dynabeads, now I just put the tire-mark near the stem and add the 1 or 2 oz of beads. (Some of my wheels were heaviest around 90 to 180 degrees away from the stem.)

Here's a tip - IF the beads "choke-up" while (not) going into the valve stem, just take your air hose w/ a blower and give it a 'hit', which'll blow the beads in.

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Awesome, thanks. So with the beads, it sounds like you don't even have to worry about aligning the stem with any marks....At least that's what I get from reading your post...?
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Can anyone suggest where to buy tire beads other than online? I need them ASAP.
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When mounting my own tires I will check the balance prior to seating the beads and slide the tire around until I feel like it will use the least about of weight to balance.

My last tire I put in the dynabeads. May go that route from now on.

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Awesome, thanks. So with the beads, it sounds like you don't even have to worry about aligning the stem with any marks....At least that's what I get from reading your post...?
Doesn't SEEM to matter, at least not to me.

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Twowheels, try this link to find a nearby seller.....


http://www.innovativebalancing.com/search.php#

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I have my front wheel off to change the tire. I had the rotors marked "right" and "left" with sharpie, but when I sprayed some brake cleaner on the rotors, it came right off....DOH! Is there a difference in sides with the V's front wheel or not? If there is, how can I tell at this pont? Gracias.
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LOL There is a direction arrow(s) on both the wheel and the tire. They should both be pointing the same way, and clockwise if you're standing on the right of your Versys.
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I know there's one on the tire, but I don't see anything on the wheel at all.
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Look at the wheel hub near the axle seals, just inside of the brake disc mounts.
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Got it, thanks. I was looking EVERYWHERE else on the wheel. Thank you.
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Done! Thanks everybody...
- New Paint
- New tires
- New plugs
- New air filter
- New windshield
- New sprockets
- New chain
- New Baldwin seat
- Cables lubed

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Twowheels, try this link to find a nearby seller.....


http://www.innovativebalancing.com/search.php#
Thanks for the link. I'm going to try these when I install my new tires this weekend.
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Done! Thanks everybody...
- New Paint
- New tires
- New plugs
- New air filter
- New windshield
- New sprockets
- New chain
- New Baldwin seat
- Cables lubed

Stoked.
Ready to sell ?




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Done! Thanks everybody...
- New Paint
- New tires
- New plugs
- New air filter
- New windshield
- New sprockets
- New chain
- New Baldwin seat
- Cables lubed

Stoked.
DON'T forget...
- NEW information


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