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automatic balance of the wheels?

Hi there,

just came across this : http://www.compacc.com/Counteract_Balancing

I liked the idea but I wonder if it is effective...anyone tried this or a similar product? extending the life if my brand new expensive PR3 is a priority for me now

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Used them dyna beads and 50/50 opinion on them.
Also same for Ride-On (http://www.ride-on.com/motorcycle-formula-mot.html).

Stop using them when spoke to a MotoGP tyre technician. He says keep the tyre's yellow dot at the valve stem. Most important is a good manual tyre balancing job. He mentioned auto balancing machines are good only if they are properly calibrated which for norml bike shops here is a big question mark.

http://www.tsracing.com/manuals/TireBalance.htm
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thanks guys

here is a video about a controversial test :

here is another video that shows how well it works :

for racing, the author of the video says that racers don't use it because they use an oil somewhere that I don't know....

the company says it works up to 90 MPH...

I guess it is better to do a manual check....I just wanted to avoid this during my next tour in Europe ...

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I was searching the forums here and I found that you used the Ride-On Tire Sealant instead of the beads (back in 2010), do you still use it? do you recommend them based on your experience? I just don't want to mess with my PR3 so you views will be highly appreciated

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Used them dyna beads and 50/50 opinion on them.
Also same for Ride-On (http://www.ride-on.com/motorcycle-formula-mot.html).

Stop using them when spoke to a MotoGP tyre technician. He says keep the tyre's yellow dot at the valve stem. Most important is a good manual tyre balancing job. He mentioned auto balancing machines are good only if they are properly calibrated which for norml bike shops here is a big question mark.

http://www.tsracing.com/manuals/TireBalance.htm
http://losi.com/ProdInfo/Files/LOSA99176manual.pdf (similar principle)
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I've never used them but some people swear by them....http://www.google.com/search?client=...=1920&bih=1102
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I have somewhere CLOSE to 100,000 miles on motorcycles with balancing by "Dyna Beads". I like 'em! (And I HAVE been over 90 mph once-or-twice....)


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I use DynaBeads on my Versys and have even had her up to 104 a couple of times. They work great for me. Had them in my ST1100 as well...

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I have somewhere CLOSE to 100,000 miles on motorcycles with balancing by "Dyna Beads". I like 'em! (And I HAVE been over 90 mph once-or-twice....)

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Hi Purificator,

Had used both Dyna Beads and Ride-On.

Had opt for Ride-On as a sealant plus balancer. Had a screw pass the rear and the Ride-On was as advertised. Changed that rear tire though for safety reasons.

IMHO, they both work as the mirrors did not shake much.

However a manual static wheel balancing is the key to start with. Going to get a balancer soon.


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I wrote to Michelin about the ride-on product and this is their response:
"Thank you for the interest in Michelin motorcycle tires Khalid.

While Michelin Motorcycle does not recommend the introduction and use of any sealant type material in its tires, the use of this material, by itself, does not void the warranty. However, if a tire is rendered unserviceable due to the introduction and use of this material, warranty coverage would be void under the heading of abuse.

We do not recommend the introduction and use of any sealant type material in our tires because some of these products may cause damage to the inner liner. The long term effect of these products is unknown (chemical reaction when exposed to pressure, temperature and time).

Because some of these products may be flammable, we strongly urge you to advise a tire dealer of the use of these products before having the tire and wheel serviced. Failure to do so could lead to serious injury or death.

Please refer to the warnings and instructions provided by the manufacturers of these products regarding their use.

I trust this clarifies Michelin Motorcycle's position on this issue and that the information that I have provided will be helpful to you.

We appreciate your business and thank you for choosing Michelin.

It is our goal to ensure that your issue has been resolved or your question answered to your satisfaction. If we can assist you further, please respond to this email or call us at 1-800-642-4354 (toll free) between 8:00AM and 5:00PM Eastern Time Monday through Friday.

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not a clear cut but I think they want to be on the safe side and rather not recommend it


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