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OEM Tire Removable

For the folks who change their own tires: Has anyone else had difficulty removing the OEM tires from the wheels? I'm not sure if my technique is bad or if these tires are seriously stiff.

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have you taken tubeless tires off a rim before? quite a bit more elbow grease than tubed tires. It's the one service I leave to the dealer.


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They are well bonded on. I broke them loose in a large table vise, with wood on the rim to get the second side.
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The bead breaking wasn't an issue for me. The issue is getting the bead on the other side of the rim with the tire irons. I just feel like I have to put so much pressure on it that something is going to give.

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have you taken tubeless tires off a rim before? quite a bit more elbow grease than tubed tires. It's the one service I leave to the dealer.


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No this is my first time taking tubeless tires off.

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A friend and I had no significant problems when we used his Harbor Freight tire changing equipment. All seemed normal.

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No this is my first time taking tubeless tires off.
My fav tool for this is a big c-clamp!
It's do-able. It's probably your technique. If you're using too much muscle, you're doing it wrong! Stop, think, do some research and change your technique.
Are both sides of the bead broken?
For both sides, is the tire bead past the rim and the inner safety bead?
Your bead isn't broken unless it's past the inner safety bead.
My guess is that it's not, so the tire cannot get into the well and you dont have any room to lever the tire over the rim.


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The bead breaking wasn't an issue for me. The issue is getting the bead on the other side of the rim with the tire irons. I just feel like I have to put so much pressure on it that something is going to give.
Original tire is a bit stiff. You have to use the iron with the tire bead close to the rim for best leverage, with the opposing bead in the rim's well.
Oh and pre-heating the tire helps a lot. I heat it up in a sauna first, or you can use a heater or leave it in the sun for a while.
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I found that the NO-MAR tire tool web site to be EXTREMELY helpfull.
The first time I used the tire spoon method I felt as if I was wrestling and anaconda and nearly lost. Using the spoons took me two hours to dismount & remount (ruining a new tire in the process). Using their bar with a generic tire base reduced the job to 10 minutes (including a head scratching break).
The tool and their instruction made a world of difference.

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You could try spraying a bit of Pledge too, though I use that more for mounting the new tire. A bit of lubrication never hurt anyone.
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The bead breaking wasn't an issue for me. The issue is getting the bead on the other side of the rim with the tire irons. I just feel like I have to put so much pressure on it that something is going to give.
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You could try spraying a bit of Pledge too, though I use that more for mounting the new tire. A bit of lubrication never hurt anyone.
LOTS of lube on BOTH sides of the tire works (and I've even used WD40 as lube!) best.

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I do remember the OEM was harder to get off than the Tourance I replaced it with.
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Lots of lube. I use windex. And a clamp the keep the opposite side of the tire in the WELL
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Coming off, you shouldn't need any lube at all. Get the bead down in the rim well. I usually kneel on the tire to do this while using two irons on the opposite side to pull the bead over the rim. The rim is designed to allow adequate clearance to do this easily as long as the bead is seated down in the well. If you want, cut a couple of wood blocks to put between the bead and rim to make it easier to hold it down. If you have to exert a lot of force, STOP. You're doing something wrong. There's a steel cable in the bead, and it does NOT stretch.

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The bead breaking wasn't an issue for me. The issue is getting the bead on the other side of the rim with the tire irons. I just feel like I have to put so much pressure on it that something is going to give.
I finished the front tire a couple of days ago and I had to give the rear a rest so my temper could calm down. I can't get the second bead off the rim. I get the top part off, but even by standing on it i can't get it to slide off the rest of the way like the other side did.

I will attempt to use a ratchet strap later today.
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I finished the front tire a couple of days ago and I had to give the rear a rest so my temper could calm down. I can't get the second bead off the rim. I get the top part off, but even by standing on it i can't get it to slide off the rest of the way like the other side did.

I will attempt to use a ratchet strap later today.
I don't understand.
What are you trying to do?

The second bead should be as easy as the first. Slip both beads over the rim, and slide the entire rim out, like this guy:

http://youtu.be/cd9TJmfwCEM?t=3m20s

use a lot of lube!
i bought some tire lube from advanced auto parts. 1 gallon, $8, should last a long time.
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I might have been doing something wrong (my thumbs is still hurting and I have very poor dexterity from and low side I had last week) but I was trying to do the exact thing in the video but use a ratchet strap so pull it.

I just could not get enough of the second bead off the rim to be able to take the tire irons out without it popping back in.
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I might have been doing something wrong (my thumbs is still hurting and I have very poor dexterity from and low side I had last week) but I was trying to do the exact thing in the video but use a ratchet strap so pull it.

I just could not get enough of the second bead off the rim to be able to take the tire irons out without it popping back in.
OK. Both beads come off the same side. Stand the wheel up vertical with the bead in the drop center. Insert iron from the rim side and pull the bead over the rim. Hold it there while you take a rubber mallet and hit the tire bead alongside the iron, driving it over the rim. Soon you'll be able to finish using your hands.

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I probably should have paid attention but I did mine out of habit
The question is the drop area centered on the rim or does it favor one side?
I normally pull everything over the sprocket side of the back rim
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