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post #101 of 121 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 08:19 PM
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June 12, 2019 / 516 KM @ 60 miles per gallon

Yesterday put on 516 KM , and was using Lucas engine treatment , 1.5 oz per tank, I got 60 miles to the gallon yesterday. This too needs to be monitored, I fueled up when the low fuel started to flash, plus about 60 KM, so it appears that I had 3 liters in the tank, with 430 KM traveled according to my GPS. It was a windy day, and I have never had that good a mileage before, bought the Lucas stuff years ago and used it whenever I thought of it. This time it was a full tank, plus I have a small bottle with 1.5 oz in it for fueling up.Yes this should be another post, did some viewing about ethanol and the fact it has 30% less energy and that several stations in Canada sell ethanol free fuel at 91 octane, the price difference for a 7% gain isn't worth the $$$$.
So I am getting use to the new flash, about 2000 KM on it now, there has been mention of converting back, the best way I can relate to that is like selling my 2015 and buying back my 2007 Versys, ain't happening.So next ride I may look at longer distance and monitor using fuel treatment. The big guess is the amount, 1 oz, 1.5 oz or 2 oz. per tank. Could take all summer whenever it gets here
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Yesterday put on 516 KM , and was using Lucas engine treatment , 1.5 oz per tank, I got 60 miles to the gallon yesterday. This too needs to be monitored, I fueled up when the low fuel started to flash, plus about 60 KM, so it appears that I had 3 liters in the tank, with 430 KM traveled according to my GPS. It was a windy day, and I have never had that good a mileage before, bought the Lucas stuff years ago and used it whenever I thought of it. This time it was a full tank, plus I have a small bottle with 1.5 oz in it for fueling up.Yes this should be another post, did some viewing about ethanol and the fact it has 30% less energy and that several stations in Canada sell ethanol free fuel at 91 octane, the price difference for a 7% gain isn't worth the $$$$.
So I am getting use to the new flash, about 2000 KM on it now, there has been mention of converting back, the best way I can relate to that is like selling my 2015 and buying back my 2007 Versys, ain't happening.So next ride I may look at longer distance and monitor using fuel treatment. The big guess is the amount, 1 oz, 1.5 oz or 2 oz. per tank. Could take all summer whenever it gets here
10% ethanol fuel, which is common here in the US does have less energy in it, about 3%. An interesting fact is that the stoic ratio for gasoline is 14.7:1 I don't tune to 14.7 to 1, I tune to 14.2:1 . why? Because that's stoic for 10% ethanol fuel, which is what we will most likely be running in our bikes.
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So after two full tanks post flash I can report better mpg. Before flash my riding style would yield about 180/190 miles before the last fuel marker would flash. This weekend I got 212 miles when I got down to the last fuel bar and that was before it started flashing. I didnít get the flash for improved mpg and I still need more tankfulls to be sure but if itís true itís a nice bonus.
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Any update on the flash for 2017 Versys 650? Any ETA?
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Any update on the flash for 2017 Versys 650? Any ETA?
i am also interested. let me know.

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I was in contact with Steve about 10 days ago, he hasn't been on the forum since July 22. He moved and apparently some things aren't going too good. Anyone knowing more please PM me. Since his email changed also his password was a problem. I had KawiMan send him a new link for changing his password and updating his email. I haven't heard from him in over a week since doing that.
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A while back, @BigKev reported in this thread about 2wheeldynoworks ECU flash for all Gen 3's and his experience with it. Here's the link to their service. Appears to be more expensive but if it's as good as Shoodaben's, it's worth it!

https://www.kawasakiversys.com/forum...er-forums.html

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A while back, @BigKev reported in this thread about 2wheeldynoworks ECU flash for all Gen 3's and his experience with it. Here's the link to their service. Appears to be more expensive but if it's as good as Shoodaben's, it's worth it!

https://2wheeldynoworks.com/shop/ecu...-in-ecu-flash/
I'm not seeing anything on the website on how it is tuned or the specific performance traits they achieved.

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I'm not seeing anything on the website on how it is tuned or the specific performance traits they achieved.
True. All we have is the experience of BigKev at this point!

Maybe someone will chime in with more info. Iím sure enjoying my ECU flash from Shoodabeen!
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True. All we have is the experience of BigKev at this point!

Maybe someone will chime in with more info. Iím sure enjoying my ECU flash from Shoodabeen!
I am as well.
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Wow, weird. for some reason I couldn't sign in, so I was lurking for the past month or so. today I tried to chage my password, and my old sign in went right through. So that's good, I'm back!

I do have some good news. i can flash the 17-18's with the same flash I built for the earlier bikes so there is that!

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Wow, weird. for some reason I couldn't sign in, so I was lurking for the past month or so. today I tried to chage my password, and my old sign in went right through. So that's good, I'm back!

I do have some good news. i can flash the 17-18's with the same flash I built for the earlier bikes so there is that!

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i like that news. what's the process?
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Hey everyone!

I am very happy with the results of my flash. Throttle is fixed. Just completely fixed. Fueling is great. Performance is better. Seat-of-the-pants better. Pulls cleanly from below 2000rpm. Snatchiness is gone. Fuel economy is so close to stock Iím not sure if itís my math producing differences. Seems to run better with premium gas. Love hearing about the results people have been having with the Shoodabeen flash. I just couldnít wait. Happy I pulled the trigger on it. Bonus! The exhaust sounds better! ĎBurblierí. Thatís a thing. So, my advice is to just do it. Steveís flash or 2wheeldynoworks? Take your pick. Steveís tune sounds, from the reviews at least, more refined. I have no idea what that means. Sounds like the results are similar between both.
Hope this helps a bit. Just do it. The factory throttle sucks and there seems to be no other solutions that work properly.

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i like that news. what's the process?
Send an email to him at the Shoodaben web site

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I am very happy with the results of my flash. Throttle is fixed. Just completely fixed. Fueling is great. Performance is better. Seat-of-the-pants better. Pulls cleanly from below 2000rpm. Snatchiness is gone. Fuel economy is so close to stock Iím not sure if itís my math producing differences. Seems to run better with premium gas. Love hearing about the results people have been having with the Shoodabeen flash. I just couldnít wait. Happy I pulled the trigger on it. Bonus! The exhaust sounds better! ĎBurblierí. Thatís a thing. So, my advice is to just do it. Steveís flash or 2wheeldynoworks? Take your pick. Steveís tune sounds, from the reviews at least, more refined. I have no idea what that means. Sounds like the results are similar between both.
Hope this helps a bit. Just do it. The factory throttle sucks and there seems to be no other solutions that work properly.

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You are finding that it runs better on premium fuel? Do you get any gas knock on regular (87) octane ?
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I think there might be a bit. I normally run 91 octane and I put a tank of 87 in her this last tank. I think I might notice a bit of pinging under low rpm load. But Iím just going by feel. This is not a very scientific observation. Iíll know better when I put 91 in it again and can compare. 5000 miles with tune and Iíve never suspected any knocking. This tank of fuel and I do. Iíll stick to 91, the cost difference is worth the peace of mind. This tune is definitely flowing more fuel when youíre on it and when engine braking. Ride sane and fuel usage seems same as stock. Throttle is nice! Cold/hot starting, idle, day to day riding and hooning are all great. Really seemed to wake the bike up. Pulls hard over 7000rpm. Well, hard for a 650versys anyways. Stock pipe.
Hope this information is of some use to you all. Iím completely sold on the effectiveness of this tune. I think it may be be more performance oriented than what Iím reading about your tune. Yours seems to have those Ď15ís and Ď16ís dialed.
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thank you Big Kev.
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Logged on for the first time in several weeks, and this is GREAT news. Thank you!

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Glad to hear the tune/flash is now available for the 2018 versys 650 models. I'll probably spring for the tune over the winter when I'm not riding.

I posted a few weeks ago about how the bike finally feels smooth and broken in after 2000 miles. Yes it's a great improvement, but for a $250 tune, it would be nice to have more of the lower rpms available.
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