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Side stand slumping issues

I notice all Versys 650's seem to slump quite a bit on the side stand. Even a new Versys in the show room I examined at the dealer seemed to lean more than most bikes and have play in the kickstand. My bike leans at about 45 degrees on the side stand which seems quite a bit more than other bikes and causes a bit of a struggle sometimes to get the bike upright and off the side stand. With all that weight on the sidestand it is also more likely to sink in the ground or pavement. This seems to be caused by excessive lateral free play at the side stand attachment.

On Friday I removed the side stand to see if there was anything I could do. There appears to be a considerable gap between the side stand and the bike attachment plate. I tried hammering this closed but it does not appear to be caused by bending. Has anyone successfully addressed this issue? Anyone tried washers to fill the space?

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I don't have a problem lifting it off the side stand because I owned two ZG1000 Concours. They were extremely top-heavy, especially when the tank was filled with 27 litres of fuel.
However, I do still get startled when the V suddenly lurches to the side while parked. Can't help the feeling that it is going to fall over!

I've also considered a spacer of some sort. I'm no engineer, but logic would dictate that the spacer would need to be quite hard steel or it would be ground up by the stand and bracket that holds it. The resulting ground metal could then wear the pivot point making matters worse.
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personally id rather the bike lean a bit more on the kick stand side VS being to upright. my secaII was really upright when on the stand and more then once it got blown over by the wind O.O

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I put a "side-stand-foot" onto both my V 650s, substantially altered using JB Weld between the stock foot and the NEW one (bought via Ebay from China).

NOW the bikes stand a LITTLE bit more upright, and do NOT sink!

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Ditto on adding a large foot to the sidestand. I used to worry about hot tar parking lots being too soft, but not any more. It does raise the bike and reduce the lean angle when parked but not a lot.
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Notice greater lean angle of Versys.


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I put a "side-stand-foot" onto both my V 650s, substantially altered using JB Weld between the stock foot and the NEW one (bought via Ebay from China).

NOW the bikes stand a LITTLE bit more upright, and do NOT sink!
I have the same foot. It is scratching my swing arm because of the play in the kickstand pivot causes it to hit the swing arm on retraction.
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Mine had a heck of a lean thats why i carried this in the side bag....

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IMHO this free play is for avoiding jamming from rust and lack of lubing.

Free play is your friend.

When you lube the chain, also give a shot at:
a) the sidestand
b) the gear shifter (wrapped around the left footpeg shaft). This is more important that you think.
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I had a couple of bikes that sat quite vertical on the side stand. Not a fan of this. Too easy to tip over. I prefer the lean.

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Ilene...Lol.
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another thought i had was is this... did you get your bike new or used? if used was it lowered at one point? i know most people when they lower there bike they shorten the kickstand. mines lowered (got it used) and it doesnt have nearly THAT much lean

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another thought i had was is this... did you get your bike new or used? if used was it lowered at one point? i know most people when they lower there bike they shorten the kickstand. mines lowered (got it used) and it doesnt have nearly THAT much lean
It's the OEM kickstand.

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personally id rather the bike lean a bit more on the kick stand side VS being to upright. my secaII was really upright when on the stand and more then once it got blown over by the wind O.O
It would require a 60mph+ wind which is a hurricane hitting a cover to catch the wind just right, to produce any significant wind loading on the side of a bike to tip it. My bike survived a category 3 hurricane with a cover and did not tip. The cover was shredded though. A much more likely explanation is the kick stand sunk in soft pavement or dirt and caused the bike to tip or someone purposely tipped the bike. Without a cover the wind has nowhere to exert a force.

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personally id rather the bike lean a bit more on the kick stand side VS being to upright. my secaII was really upright when on the stand and more then once it got blown over by the wind O.O

Same here for the same reason.

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