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My chain looks deadly.

Just got back from a long ride, and I woke up to a nasty looking chain. I had stopped during the night to adjust the tension on the chain, but didnt see this or realize it was that bad. I had put 900 miles in 17 hours in 105 plus degree heat without stopping to lube the chain. I know what your thinking, Versys abuse, life endangerment, Im slowly learning.
So im wondering was this dangerous? When I seen this this morning, I decided to ride another bike until I get another chain and sprocket set.
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I rode 2600 km over a few days and never lubed that chain, I am a chain abuser, that chain and sprockets were changed out at 27,000 km as teeth were riding on chain roller.
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Wow, you lost a roller... 20,000 miles on original chain? Not bad at all.
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Yes, IMO that was pretty dangerous. If that had been my bike and I'd discovered that, I would have considered myself broken down and waiting for a towtruck. But everyone's tolerance for risk is different. It must have been making a terrible racket.
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What is it they say about the strength of a chain being a function of its weakest link? In the case of a motorcycle, it's not a metaphor.


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Crow, that does look risky. My OEM chain and bike now have 22600 miles and the chain looks and sounds fine. I have new chain and sprockets in the garage. I think I will wait a while longer before changing them. I changed to a 44T rear sprocket showing little wear on the OEM 46T. Of course the front sprocket is showing wear and I may change it out before the chain?
For those that moved to the 44T rear sprocket, I could tell very little difference in the gearing?
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I would think that the noise from the chain would have been much more annoying that the dash buzz & aroused my curiosity
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Actually this chain has only 4,000 miles on it. I had another bad chain episode in Mexico early this year and replaced the original at around 16,000. It was a butchered job so I can see why this happened.
It was making a lot of noise when I left Lee Vining, I inspected it and tightened the chain as it was loose. I didnt realize this was going on.


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Actually this chain has only 4,000 miles on it. I had another bad chain episode in Mexico early this year and replaced the original at around 16,000. It was a butchered job so I can see why this happened.
It was making a lot of noise when I left Lee Vining, I inspected it and tightened the chain as it was loose. I didnt realize this was going on.
I took mine into the Copper Canyon twice on my Mexico tour last winter. I tried to keep it oiled as best I could and it did well I guess. I'm not complaining about this OEM chain and still hoping to get a few mo miles out of it. Only 4000 miles sucks, do you think it was just a cheapo chain??
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I just replaced my chain and sprockets. Heres some info I learned you may find helpful.

You can replace the chain with any 520 series O ring chain but I would recommend a plated X ring chain instead like the RK GB520XSO or DID VM 520 G. Plated XRing chains don't rust and last longer.

The OEM front sprocket which also will need replacement. It has a rubber damper the after market sprockets don't have.

JK make basic steel rear sprockets and are the low cost option. SunStar make coated steel sprockets which supposedly makes them much less likely to rust and they only cost slightly more. SuperSrpox make aluminum/steel combination sprockets that are the high end option.

I got the DID chain, OEM front sprocket and Sunstar rear sprocket and am so far happy with the result. It was easy to do the chain and sprockets myself after watching the youtube videos on how to do this. Purchasing a chain tool is a must.


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I just replaced my chain and sprockets. Heres some info I learned you may find helpful.

You can replace the chain with any 520 series O ring chain but I would recommend a plated X ring chain instead like the RK GB520XSO or DID VM 520 G. Plated XRing chains don't rust and last longer.

The OEM front sprocket which also will need replacement. It has a rubber damper the after market sprockets don't have.

JK make basic steel rear sprockets and are the low cost option. SunStar make coated steel sprockets which supposedly makes them much less likely to rust and they only cost slightly more. SuperSrpox make aluminum/steel combination sprockets that are the high end option.

I got the DID chain, OEM front sprocket and Sunstar rear sprocket and am so far happy with the result. It was easy to do the chain and sprockets myself after watching the youtube videos on how to do this. Purchasing a chain tool is a must.


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I have the OEM front damped sprocket and DID VM chain waiting. I'm dreading getting the front sprocket nut off. I bought a 6 pt 27mm socket for that. Any suggestions for easy removal?
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I have the OEM front damped sprocket and DID VM chain waiting. I'm dreading getting the front sprocket nut off. I bought a 6 pt 27mm socket for that. Any suggestions for easy removal?
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I don't have one but I'm sure I could take my socket down to a local shop and have them loosen it for me.
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I have the OEM front damped sprocket and DID VM chain waiting. I'm dreading getting the front sprocket nut off. I bought a 6 pt 27mm socket for that. Any suggestions for easy removal?
Put a block of wood through the rear spokes and the transmission in neutral to avoid straining the transmission. You also need to bend back the washer that is keeping it from spinning. I used an electric impact wrench and it came off the first try.

Suggest watching the youtube videos on the process.
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I don't have one but I'm sure I could take my socket down to a local shop and have them loosen it for me.
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Took my 6 point socket down to the local bike shop for them to borrow to take my front sprocket off and what a act it was with impact wrench and very long breaker bar, block of wood and me standing on rear brake will mechanic used the longest bar i ever seen used on a bike to break nut loose and he fell on his butt when it finally gave in.
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Took my 6 point socket down to the local bike shop for them to borrow to take my front sprocket off and what a act it was with impact wrench and very long breaker bar, block of wood and me standing on rear brake will mechanic used the longest bar i ever seen used on a bike to break nut loose and he fell on his butt when it finally gave in.
Kiwi, its stories like these that make me want to procrastinate even more !!
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Actually this chain has only 4,000 miles on it....It was making a lot of noise when I left Lee Vining, I inspected it and tightened the chain as it was loose....
When the chain on my KLR "died" at 54,000 kms, it was DIRECTLY caused by me doing an adjustment the night before (Watson Lake on the Alcan) WITHOUT re-checking tension when I tightened everything up, as it was TOO TIGHT! I noticed it in Teslin and loosened it up, but TOO late. It was 'spitting' rollers, and I spent a few hours at our campsite in Whitehorse changing out my chain rather than going to the hot springs with my riding buddy.

There's a lesson there, somewhere....

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When the chain on my KLR "died" at 54,000 kms, it was DIRECTLY caused by me doing an adjustment the night before (Watson Lake on the Alcan) WITHOUT re-checking tension when I tightened everything up, as it was TOO TIGHT! I noticed it in Teslin and loosened it up, but TOO late. It was 'spitting' rollers, and I spent a few hours at our campsite in Whitehorse changing out my chain rather than going to the hot springs with my riding buddy.

There's a lesson there, somewhere....
Hey Fasteddie, if my calculatin is correct, 54000kms = 33500 miles ?
Thats sounds really good to me. So my questions are, how did you maintain the chain and did you also make the front sprocket go that many miles??
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I have the OEM front damped sprocket and DID VM chain waiting. I'm dreading getting the front sprocket nut off. I bought a 6 pt 27mm socket for that. Any suggestions for easy removal?
Took mine to the dealership to have a 16T front sprocket put on cost $40.00 Well worth it to me.........

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Hey Fasteddie, if my calculatin is correct, 54000kms = 33500 miles ?
Thats sounds really good to me. So my questions are, how did you maintain the chain and did you also make the front sprocket go that many miles??
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I do not know what Fasteddie will say about the front sprocket, but I am sure that his response about maintaining the chain will involve gallon-quantity amounts of WD-40. He has me convinced. When I run out of the teflon stuff, I am going 100% WD-40 (even though it "is not a lubricant").

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