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I have read some good things about using AMSOIL synthetic motorcycle oil in the Versys so am thinking about switching next oil change. Do you need to use a specific filter when using synthetic or does the normal/stock filter work the same for synthetic oils? Thanks
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I have read some good things about using AMSOIL synthetic motorcycle oil in the Versys so am thinking about switching next oil change. Do you need to use a specific filter when using synthetic or does the normal/stock filter work the same for synthetic oils? Thanks
If you check the specs, you'll find that some filters will filter out much smaller particles, and the Amsoil is one of them.

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Yeah but you can't go off of Weljo's recommendations, he owns every Farkle there is to be had and burns money for fun. Haha :P

Oh and to clarify my initial statement. Not all oil filters perform the same but they do function the same. So there aren't separate oil filters for regular versus synthetic oil. At least that I have ever seen.


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Yeah but you can't go off of Weljo's recommendations, he owns every Farkle there is to be had and burns money for fun. Haha :P

Oh and to clarify my initial statement. Not all oil filters perform the same but they do function the same. So there aren't separate oil filters for regular versus synthetic oil. At least that I have ever seen.


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I agree Me got one of this too but just waiting for the oil change interval to come to get it swap in. I know STLee is also using one of this.

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If you check the specs, you'll find that some filters will filter out much smaller particles, and the Amsoil is one of them.
"The AMSOil filters also have the advanced media, but they only have a very few square inches of it. Because of my fear that these can become clogged up too easily, I cannot recommend them."

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html

There was also an oil filter comparison which mentioned that the Amsoil filter was already contaminated before being used, but I can't find it now.
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"The AMSOil filters also have the advanced media, but they only have a very few square inches of it. Because of my fear that these can become clogged up too easily, I cannot recommend them."

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html

There was also an oil filter comparison which mentioned that the Amsoil filter was already contaminated before being used, but I can't find it now.
Invader, Thanks for bringing the list back to life. I always used the SuperTech filter which I thought did a good enough job for the $$$, but now we can't get it anymore. I was thinking about the Pure One (PL14610) filter but seen a few things about it being too restrictive for our bikes. The million dollar question, has anybody seen evidence of this fact and think I should shy away from this filter?
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Purolator's premium oil filter element does have more surface area and more pleats for relatively low resistance to flow, while still filtering well.

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml

http://www.leroybeal.net/motorcycles...520exposed.pdf

This flow vs PSID chart published by AC Delco (Ultraguard) shows that Purolator's Pure One oil filter is less restrictive than Wix, Fram's DoubleGuard and ExtraGuard, Mobil 1 (K&N is exactly the same, with a nut welded on top), and Fram's Tough Guard (most restrictive).




Oil Filter Flow Test: http://www.peterverdonedesigns.com/oilfiltertest.htm

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("The best explanation of the oil filter that I have read is by George Nehls" link is available here): http://www.mgnoc.com/article_oil_filters_revisited.html

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Purolator's premium oil filter element does have more surface area and more pleats for relatively low resistance to flow, while still filtering well.

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml

http://www.leroybeal.net/motorcycles...520exposed.pdf

This flow vs PSID chart published by AC Delco (Ultraguard) shows that Purolator's Pure One oil filter is less restrictive than Wix, Fram's DoubleGuard and ExtraGuard, Mobil 1 (K&N is exactly the same, with a nut welded on top), and Fram's Tough Guard (most restrictive).




Oil Filter Flow Test: http://www.peterverdonedesigns.com/oilfiltertest.htm

Interesting info on motorcycle oil filters and by-pass valve pressure:
http://www.peterverdonedesigns.com/oilfilter2.htm

("The best explanation of the oil filter that I have read is by George Nehls" link is available here): http://www.mgnoc.com/article_oil_filters_revisited.html


I might have missed it (probably did) which filter do you use Invader?


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So there aren't separate oil filters for regular versus synthetic oil. At least that I have ever seen.
Just wanted to point out my error. After doing some research I have found separate oil filters for synthetic oils.

http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/...ilFilters.aspx


Looks like all the advantages of the Purolator Pure One, but designed specifically for synthetic oils. Think I'm going to try this out as I come up on 1500 miles on my new V and my plan to fill er up with synth.


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Just wanted to point out my error. After doing some research I have found separate oil filters for synthetic oils.

http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/...ilFilters.aspx


Looks like all the advantages of the Purolator Pure One, but designed specifically for synthetic oils. Think I'm going to try this out as I come up on 1500 miles on my new V and my plan to fill er up with synth.
If it's truly a "better filter", it's probably better for dino oils, too.... so in that sense, it's probably just a marketing gimmick. But what do I know? It never occurred to me that the weak link in a long-interval oil change might be the filter- but it makes sense. Even with synthetic oil, I've never gone longer than 3.5K-
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I use the K&N with Mobil 1 synthetic. Seems to do its job.

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Speaking of synthetics...

Where do you guys buy your AMSOIL from? A quick google search just returns several pages of the official AMSOIL store. (Invader if you're still using that super secret code send it my way if it works in the states)

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Speaking of synthetics...

Where do you guys buy your AMSOIL from? A quick google search just returns several pages of the official AMSOIL store. (Invader if you're still using that super secret code send it my way if it works in the states)

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I get mine from forum member "Tinner".....http://www.gbsyn.com/index.php ........http://www.amsoil.com/catalog.aspx?s...=50&zo=1803064

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