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Oil Replacement

Not wanting to start another oil thread here. However, for the last few oil changes, I have found it increasingly hard to find Mobile 1 Full Syn 15w-50w anywhere in my area. I used to find it at Walmart at a competitive price.
Just wondering if I could replace it with Mobile 1 Full Syn 10w-30w as a replacement?
I have been using 15w-50w in all my bikes for the last 10 years with close to 200k miles in that time. Never had a clutch problem and the bikes have run great.
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I use Mobile 1 full syn 10W-40 (for motorcycles) from Walmart and have had no problems. 10W-30 might be a bit thin

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Shell Rotella 15W-40. Easy to find. A very good heavy duty oil also rated for motorcycles.

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Those oils are not the best for motorcycles as they contain friction modifiers. The 10w30 is "Energy Saving" which means it doesn't have the ZDDP that our bucket over shim motors like. Mobil 1 has a motorcycle blend that is much better suited for our bikes in 10w40.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/..._Oil_FAQs.aspx


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Thank you fellow members for your quick responses. Based on this information, I will not be buying 10w-30w.

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According to motorcycle news mobil 1 changed their formula in 2011 and it should not be used in bikes. I tried it and had clutch and shifting problems
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Thanks WelJo.

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Was that Mobile 1 Full Syn 15w-50w? It was never recommended for motorcycles, but it has worked well for me without fail.

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Amazon is more than I pay at O'Reilly Auto parts for the same oil.
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He right amazon is pricey when you count the shipping

Here's the 10W-40 link

http://www.amazon.com/Mobil-MX4T-10W-40-Motorcycle-Oil/dp/B000UEG500/ref=sr_1_5?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1310603781&sr=1-5
but it can be had at wallyword for $12
and at canadian tire for $16
without the added cost of shipping charges.

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The one i sent him to on amazon was free shipping.

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The most popular oil weights for cars are the ones with friction modifiers - 5-30, 10-30, 10-40. Look at the label - if its says 'energy saving' you don't want it for your wet clutch.

15-50 does not have friction modifiers. It will work fine and is a good viscosity for summer temps but not for winter.

Shell Rotella is a good oil, as is Delo 400. If you're going to buy cheap oil at walfart get one of those. These are dyno oils. Shorten your OCI to 3500-4000.

For about $7 a quart you can get Amsoil 4-stroke oil. It's engineered specifically for our type of motor.

Mobil also makes a 4-stroke motorcycle specific oil as well. Don't think they have it at walfart. Maybe in the 'bike section'.

BTW, don't buy those cheap$hit oil filters there either. Either get a Hiflofiltro or a oem one. Cheaper by the handful on fleabay.

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The most popular oil weights for cars are the ones with friction modifiers - 5-30, 10-30, 10-40. Look at the label - if its says 'energy saving' you don't want it for your wet clutch.....
I ran Mobil1 car 10w-30 WITH friction modifiers in my 1200 Bandit (104 HP!) for years with absolutely no issues after corresponding with a drag racer on the Maximum Suzuki Forum who runs M1 car 5w-30, and turns in the 9s and high 8s. ONLY reason I didn't go 5w-30 was because I already had lots of M1 10w-30 in the shop.

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I ran Mobil1 car 10w-30 WITH friction modifiers in my 1200 Bandit (104 HP!) for years with absolutely no issues after corresponding with a drag racer on the Maximum Suzuki Forum who runs M1 car 5w-30, and turns in the 9s and high 8s. ONLY reason I didn't go 5w-30 was because I already had lots of M1 10w-30 in the shop.
Some stock clutch friction materials with some stock springs' tension may not be too affected by friction modifiers... The drag racer likely has a racing 2-stage lock up clutch or extra heavy springs to harness all that power.

By the way, automotive oils of W-40 or higher viscosity are not energy conserving rated, but may still contain friction midifiers.
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My buddy was having issues with heat and vibration in his Suzuki C50. He was told to switch to Amsoil 10/40 and this would reduce heat and smooth out the motor. He ordered a case, tried it and was very happy with the results. Less heat, less vibration and he told me it is shifting better than ever. I will try it at my next change as he has given me 3 quarts for the V!
Any of you guys run Amsoil?


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I use Amsoil Formula 4-Stroke® PowerSports 0W-40 (AFF). I get a great discount an any Amsoil product from http://www.woodsbrosracing.com/amsoil/aff.htm with the promo code. By the case, I end up paying about 40% less than from Canadian Tire, and it's at my door in a couple days.
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Was that Mobile 1 Full Syn 15w-50w? It was never recommended for motorcycles, but it has worked well for me without fail.
10w40 full syn just put in the motorcycle syn and problems went away.
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