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Uh-Oh...shifting issue

Over the past couple of days my bike has been shifting weirdly...when changing 3rd>2nd and 2nd>1st it will change gears but the shift lever is very slow to return.
It won't go from neutral to second. Double downshifts (eg 4th>2nd) aren't happening...well not in any useful timeframe due to the slow lever return.
I'm going to check the clutch cable and clean/grease the shift linkage but I'm guessing it's some spring/shift doodad in the gearbox.
Bike has 18500 km on it, 5100 oil, temp is cold but not snowing cold (currently 10 deg celcius).
Dissapointing as cosmetically my farkles are lining up and now this happens
Any idea what this might be and whether I can fix it before heading to the local superexpensive dealer? TIA
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Motul 5100 10W-40? How's your clutch cable slack and lubrication? Any fall on the left side, bending your gear shift mechanism?

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I've had the neutral switch cause similar symptoms on my other bike. Missed a washer during reassembly and the switch stuck down too far and cause the shifter not to shift past neutral. Doesn't sound like what's happening there but something to check.

I'd unscrew the shift linkage rod and rotate everything and feel how it moves. That'll tell you whether the problem is the bushing on the footpeg (or possibly the knuckles on the shift rod) or something farther in. If you're lucky the footpeg bushing just needs some grease or one of the knuckles on the linkage rod has worn out. I would feel comfortable opening up the wet case and examining the shift pawl but I don't know how comfortable you are with that kind of work.

Let us know how it goes and good luck,

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Oil grade correct (and a month old, correct level), clutch action good (but will double check adjustment), bike never dropped. A UK forum search offers hope for greasing the shift linkage, off to the garage I head
Edit: Thanks also Matt
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Recheck the clutch slack action. Probably clutch not engaging properly.

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Resolved: greased up the linkage, shifting sweeter than ever. I will stop panicking
As an aside...did the V ever change from neutral to 2nd? Just something I noticed (mine doesn't) during the panic.
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Mine hasn't.

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It's normal. You can only shift from neutral to 2nd if rear wheel is turning fast enough.
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Thanks again...I eventaully remembered that about neutral to 2nd. Quite amazing how much difference just some lube on those ball joints and lever has made...and how profound lack of said lube was!
Yes, that's the majestic Jackalope bounding through prarie grasslands...good eating if a little chewy
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It's called "positive neutral finder"... Yeah I do keep my shift linkages lubed up, along with clutch lever+cable, brake levers, throttle tube+cables, footpegs, gas cap, swingarm and steering head bearings, etc...
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Thanks again...I eventaully remembered that about neutral to 2nd. Quite amazing how much difference just some lube on those ball joints and lever has made...and how profound lack of said lube was!
Yes, that's the majestic Jackalope bounding through prarie grasslands...good eating if a little chewy
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2. take a large cast iron dutch oven, drop in the critter, then add water to cover;
3. add potatoes, onions, carrots, salt and pepper, then put over low-to-medium heat for 3 to 4 hours; and
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Resolved: greased up the linkage, shifting sweeter than ever. I will stop panicking
As an aside...did the V ever change from neutral to 2nd? Just something I noticed (mine doesn't) during the panic.
Hope you get a good sleep and go for a spin

and get the farkles up .

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