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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-09-2011, 10:13 AM Thread Starter
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Is it normal...

for the drive wheel to turn with the clutch engaged when up on stands? I was teaching my girlfriend to shift and clutch on my "Simulator" the other day and noticed when she would put it in gear while the clutch was engaged the rear wheel would start turning. And I notice the bike want to move when I put it in first with the wheel on the ground, it doesn't seem to matter what setting I use to engage the clutch either so I'm not sure if this is normal behaviour or not.

I need to tighten my chain and evaluate when I am swapping my tires this evening so I will do some checking on the bike then but if anyone knows one way or the other with this issue it would be awesome for some more info.
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Perfectly normal providing you can easily stop it with your foot or the rear brake. It's viscous friction because of the oil between the plates as well as a little light contact. If it's hard to stop or it stalls when you do this something is wrong. In that case your clutch cable might be too loose and isn't retracting the pressure plate far enough. Another possibility is sometimes a type/brand of motor oil will make the plates stick together. Try a different oil and see if that helps. If all that is to no avail replace the plates, it's cheap and easy enough. Just make sure you order or can make a tool to remove the clutch basket.

On a side note I wouldn't let anyone sit on the bike and turn the tire with the engine while on center stand. All it takes is for her to lean back slightly, the rear tire makes contact and quickly launches the bike and your girl off center stand and into the wall.

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Oh I had it braced and locked with the tire 3 inches off the ground and pointed out into the field. I was prepared for the possibility but I took measures. It's likely fine in that case as when it is on the ground it surges a tiny bit when I put it in gear but doesn't keep pushing or stall out. It was just a curiousity I had.
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Yep. For the first thousand miles with the new clutch if you let my Nighthawk sit for longer than 20 minutes the clutch plates stick together. I either rock it in gear with the clutch in to free them or start it in gear with the clutch and put up with the bike lurching forward. If you start it in neutral the first time it's put into gear you get a loud CLACK for your trouble. Before they were changed it would sometimes lock where you'd have a constant pull sitting in gear at a light.

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Ah that makes sense on the clunking I've been getting putting it into gear as well. I just did an oil change 200km ago so hopefully that wasn't the problem. Though I could just drain and refill if necessary.
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It's fairly common to get a clunk when engaging first from neutral. It hurts nothing. To minimize it, just pull the clutch in, blip the throttle once, and engage first. This will free the clutch plates up.

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Ah nice. I will try that out this evening.
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After tightening my chain and discovering my tires were lower than I thought I have corrected those issues and the bike feels just right again.
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