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New Bike - Vapor Lock

Hey all. Another issue for me already with my 2011.

I hit around 160 miles today and figured it was time to get some new gas in the tank. I get to the station, plug my key in, turn it, and well, cant get the cap off.

I was utterly confused. I thought that I was being stupid or something (i have other bikes) figured that maybe there was something special with new bikes for safety. I open the manual while at the station and its not special, just turn to the right and pop it open.

Well it wasnt working. No matter how hard I pulled etc. In any case I was getting really really pissed off fast (as you can imagine). A quick google search on phone found that some people said it was that their key was bent or something which didnt allow it to unlock, so I thought maybe that was it.

Luckily I had enough gas to drive it home, tried the spare key, same luck.

So I listened closely and I could hear the thing unlock but I could pull it up. IN any case after getting pissed enough I pulled and jiggled it left to right as much as I could and then finally "Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" the vapors came flying out and the cap poped open. Now it has no issues opening/closing.

Is this something that normally happens with a new bike or the versys in general? What did I do wrong? Is there something wrong with the bike? Any feedback would be helpful as I dont want to get stuck in this situation again.
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Two things come to mind real fast.
Were you riding in the rain? Have you done any mods or looking around?

I am thinking that you have plugged or pinched the vent tube.

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Two things come to mind real fast.
Were you riding in the rain? Have you done any mods or looking around?

I am thinking that you have plugged or pinched the vent tube.
I rode in the rain for a bit on the fist day, but not today. Nothing with any modifications fully stock.

What would riding in rain have to do with the vapor lock? Sorry just really confused

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Check page 3-108 of the service manual. Available on this forum.

If your vent tube hangs too low or in the wrong position it can pick up water and dirt. It is possible to plug the vent tube. I have actually seen this collapse fuel tanks on some Yamaha Roadstars.

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Check page 3-108 of the service manual. Available on this forum.

If your vent tube hangs too low or in the wrong position it can pick up water and dirt. It is possible to plug the vent tube. I have actually seen this collapse fuel tanks on some Yamaha Roadstars.
I cant seem to access the service manual and find anything on page 108. Is this vent tube something that someone could take a picture of so I can find it on my bike and check it?
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be sure to push down on the cap when turning the key.

open and close.

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be sure to push down on the cap when turning the key.

open and close.

pdf's sent

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Tinner,

Thanks for your help. I will have to look into it. Your tell me to check the hoses on the bottom of the bike (I have a few near the shifter) Ill check those out as it was raining a bit.

I'm just not very techy and concerned about riding it now.
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take a cell phone.
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Check page 3-108 of the service manual. Available on this forum.

If your vent tube hangs too low or in the wrong position it can pick up water and dirt. It is possible to plug the vent tube. I have actually seen this collapse fuel tanks on some Yamaha Roadstars.
Tinner or anyone,

What is the best process for clearing out these hoses without taking apart anything? a small piece of metal like a coat hanger?
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Fuel tank has to be removed to inspect the water drain pipe down on the left side. You can then try blowing in it from the top and make sure its not kinked...

2007 Service Manual-page 184 (3-108):

"Fuel Tank and Cap Inspection-
•Visually inspect the gasket on the tank cap for any damage. Replace the gasket if it is damaged.
•Check to see if the water drain pipe and fuel breather pipe in the tank is not clogged. Check the tank cap breather also. If they are clogged, remove the tank and drain it, and then blow the breather free with compressed air.

CAUTION-!!
Do not apply compressed air to the air vent holes in the tank cap. This could cause damage and clogging of the labyrinth in the cap."

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Take it back to the dealer.

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My tank has a bad vapor lock also. I just brought it into the dealer for its first and last service at the dealer and told the michanic about the vapor lock. He tried to open the cap and he had a hard time it was stuck again. So he took the taknk off and looked at the hoses. We found that one of the breather hoses under the tank on the left side right behind the frame had a little kink in it and was tight passing through the wire harnes and frame. So he moved the harnes and wire tied it up alittle and that gave the hoses more room to pass through. So now once I ride it and burn some gas wwe will see if that fixeed the problem.

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Here is my update on my vapor lock. When I had my first service done we found the hoses coming from the tank pinched and we moved the wire harness and straightened the hoses. After 2 gas stops this weekend I did not have any vapor lock in the cap. I just turned the key and it opened. I suggest if you have the vapor lock check you hoses behind the upper frame.

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Strictly speaking, this isn't vapor lock. It's a blocked vent.

Vapor lock is a condition where fuel boils and vaporizes, preventing the fuel pump from delivering fuel. This doesn't happen with fuel injected motorcycles because the fuel pump resides in the tank.

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