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Oil looks like dirty water after 300km and winter storage

I just got my bike out of winter storage finally!

I did an oil change with SAE 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil From AMSOIL just before going to storage at the end of October.
I looked at the oil after less than 300km and now it looks like dirty water.
Any idea why?

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Probably pay to change the oil again as moisture would of built up over winter but you would not need to change the filter if you had changed that in october
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I don't know why it looks like that but think you should definitely dump it. Did you start the bike over the winter?
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V was in heated storage at the dealer !?!

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I just got my bike out of winter storage finally!

I did an oil change with SAE 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil From AMSOIL just before going to storage at the end of October.
I looked at the oil after less than 300km and now it looks like dirty water.
Any idea why?

I did the same, and do the same, with the same oil. NO issues. You can send a sample out to be tested, and I would do so......it will tell you VOLUMES about what's in the oil. You can deduce where it came from once the results are back. Somethin's fishy.......
One other thought....Are you sure it's just not "aerated" oil...it can look a bit contaminated. Remove a sample with a syringe and let it sit over night in a clear container and see if there is any separation.

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Is this the 1st time using this oil? I had a different experience with Motul 5100 10W40. After the oil change, I rode it for 12km, parked my bike and to my horror, it has turned dark, I mean really really dark. It's no longer clear where u can see the vertical groove in the oil window.

There are 2 things that come to mind:

1. The Esters used in Motul is really doing a good job of cleaning the dirty engine from previous use of which was a different oil. Maybe the previous oil wasn't cleaning enough.

2. Fake oil, imitation. We get a lot of that in my country.

However, I rode it for 4k km, as I felt that the engine was still smooth. The last leg of its life, I had many wrong gear shifts, and the oil level dropped to the low limit after a short high speed cruise.

In contrast to Motul, my next oil change was a Singapore manufactured oil, United Oil. I got the 5W50 Fully Syn oil, and it was a good oil. The oil gradually gets darker, maintained its viscosity, had no issues with gear shifts, engine runs smooth.....and I sold my Ninja 250R when the oil's life was 4500km, so I am not able to see how far it can go.

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I changed the oil first time at 500km and then this time at 4500km.
I got the oil from an AMSOIL dealer...

I'll check at the next ride, but the engine was running smooth...

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Is this the 1st time using this oil? I had a different experience with Motul 5100 10W40. After the oil change, I rode it for 12km, parked my bike and to my horror, it has turned dark, I mean really really dark. It's no longer clear where u can see the vertical groove in the oil window.

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I have been using the motul 5100 10w40 in my Versys and my wifes suzuki c50 cruiser and have had no problems, would you not be better in your climate to use a motul 15w50, i think that is what fasto uses
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I just got my bike out of winter storage finally!

I did an oil change with SAE 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil From AMSOIL just before going to storage at the end of October.
I looked at the oil after less than 300km and now it looks like dirty water.
Any idea why?
Your oil is fine... It's just some condensation (water) on the sight glass, caused by your first short rides of the season in cooler weather, when engine oil doesn't reach at least 212F (100C) normal operating temperature.

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Do an oil anaysis if you got doubts. Best to drain out the oil to have a closer look.

If it's milky, probably mixed with excess water vapour.
If it's greenish, maybe a leak and mix with the green coolant. Hope not!

Agreed that just water condensation. Did you change your oil filter before storage?

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Agreed that just water condensation. Did you change your oil filter before storage?
He did check post 1
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Hmm...I didn't see any mention of oil filter change in post 1. Only oil change.
Anyway, best to change to new oil to clear any doubts. It's just less than 2 liters, IMO.

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I did change the filter every time I changed the oil.

I'll check again when the sun is coming back ...
I'll keep you posted.
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Same here, Did oil and filter change for the wifes V, old oil looked normal, put on new filter and 2qt 10W40 Red Line Synthetic Oil, after short ride there was a water type residue on the 'lil window. Not completely covered, just in the center of window, about a dime size. I've seen this more than once over the riding season, some people say to use seafoam.. Going to wait until we have some longer riding behind us and then look again, but $30.00 of new oil should not be doing this

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Never mind the Seafoam. There's nothing wrong with your oil. It's condensation from a lack of heat generated on short cool trips, as a result of the Versys' lack of a radiator bypass. Engine oil temperature much reach at least 212F (100C) to evaporate normal moisture accumulation.
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thermo-bob to sort the lack of radiator bypass and help get oil to temp faster.
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