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Strange noise from alternator cover/ engine

Hi all...

Have a 2nd hand verys 2009 at around 69K kms on the clock, been riding around for a 2-3 months now and I love it!

However recently the bike has developed a strange squeak, It really sounds like a mouse.

I have tried to isolate it, Seems to be from 3 possible areas:

1) Alternator cover
2) Front of engine, behind headers
3) Front sprocket.

Engine still still smooth and not impacting drivability...the valves arn't particularly noisy or tappy..or silent..seems fine.

I have ruled out the brakes and suspension.


The sound is intermittent - It seems to correlate with vibration..


I had changed out the sprocket and the chain seems alright...So im am leaning to rule that out, if not for the case it seems to happen when the bike is on the move, clutched in or not. The sound is stronger with more vibration.. such as when I lug the engine then it will *Squeak Squeak Squeak* with the lugs.

The sound occured a day after I installed a new/old chain guide..but im not sure if releated.

Its really annoying! I can even slightly hear it at 90kM/h with a helmet on.

At standstill when I rev the engine, it does not occur, the only way I can recreate it stationary is when blip and release the clutch momentarily, there will be a short sharp squeak.

Any one got this before?

Unfortunately I do not have a paddock stand to test while stationary. .

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OK, I think I was wrong, it could be the valves, but its intermittent still and only is present on the left side Top end. *Note the sharper clicking*

Heres a video : , somehow now it managed to come on at idle now.. anyone have any ideas? dosen't seem to sync fully with the valves timings, unless it's bent or something?


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Ok, a case of solving my own problem, I bet its the exhuast chirp that seems common with the versys, managed to google to those relevant threads. Collective wisdom accumulated over the decade for the win.

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mine makes the same kind of noise (08 with almost 40k miles) i just do my best to ignore it as long as the bike is performing properly

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Doesn't sound unusual to ME.

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Haha yea I hope its nothing, just concerned as its newly developed, but I guess the versys is a kinda rattle-y beast

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Ok, a case of solving my own problem, I bet its the exhuast chirp that seems common with the versys, managed to google to those relevant threads. Collective wisdom accumulated over the decade for the win.
Worth to check out the fitting on the exhaust...
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Cause and effect-- if the noise stated after you changed the chain guide start from there.

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Haha yea I hope its nothing, just concerned as its newly developed, but I guess the versys is a kinda rattle-y beast
could it be that it was there before but you didnt hear it over chain noise from the old parts there were replaced?

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Squeaky noise is emitted by stock muffler at speed under load... Engine noise at idle appears to be from excessive valve lash clearance. Inspect your valve clearances asap as you may also find some clearances that are insuficient.

Which type and grade of engine oil is in it, and how many miles since last oil change?
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Squeaky noise is emitted by stock muffler at speed under load... Engine noise at idle appears to be from excessive valve lash clearance. Inspect your valve clearances asap as you may also find some clearances that are insuficient.

Which type and grade of engine oil is in it, and how many miles since last oil change?
I think you are right , the squeaky noise is not actually what I captured, but instead the valve lash noise which I confused as the squeak! horrors, I think its past due for valve lash and clearance too and a good vac sync. I should get that sorted ASAP.

currently use semi syn 40w, its still within 3000kms, but I intend to upgrade to fully syn when I change the stator next week.

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Worth to check out the fitting on the exhaust...
I have actually, it seems all locked down from the joint to the cosmetic (ugly) ribbed end can cover, It could be from the headers that some have mentioned before by others, where its the header gaskets are leaking.

But I have an arrow exhaust on the way, which I hoped would sort that out. But the my dang local enforcement seemed to have caught on that an aftermarket pipe removes the cat and is barring my legal certification so my end can is in limbo now, and I can only look in envy at previous versys that managed to escape this :\. ( a fine here is around 500USD for running a non approved pipe)

The sound seemed to have quietened down, and I have got used to the squeak, I think of it as my V whistling happily lol. I hope my pipe can come through still somehow, or I guess I will have to pursue a refund on my deposit.

But that valve clearance needs to be done! I would DIY but I am afraid to botch it.

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Yeah, you just need to measure, and probably adjust your valve lash clearances... It's just "valve lash clearance", not "valve lash" AND "valve clearance". We're talking about just one thing here.
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...But that valve clearance needs to be done! I would DIY but I am afraid to botch it.
WHERE are you located (you can add it to your 'signature-line')?

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