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Jack Placement for front wheel removal

2011 Versys. The service manual indicates using a jack with "L" shaped attachments to raise the bike. I think I can fabricate something to replace the Kawi jack and adapter.

My questions are this.

A) Where exactly should the jack be placed to support the bike? i.e. I did not see anywhere obvious by taking a quick look under the bike.

B) The manual dies not indicate the rear wheel needs to be raised prior to using a jack to raise the front wheel. Is is OK to just put it in gear when using a jack to raise the front of the bike or is a rear stand required?

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When you say jack are you talking about a hydraulic type jack or jack stands? If jack stands,which I prefer. I suggest installing stand spools on the swing arm. Lift the rear with rear stand first then lift the front with front stand. It makes it easier, if some one holds the bike upright for you, while you lift the rear. Once the rear is lifted, the bike is stable. When lifting the front of the bike, one prong goes under the bottom of the fork leg, and the other prong rest on the front side of the fork leg. Hope this info is helpful.
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When you say jack are you talking about a hydraulic type jack or jack stands? If jack stands,which I prefer. I suggest installing stand spools on the swing arm. Lift the rear with rear stand first then lift the front with front stand. It makes it easier, if some one holds the bike upright for you, while you lift the rear. Once the rear is lifted, the bike is stable. When lifting the front of the bike, one prong goes under the bottom of the fork leg, and the other prong rest on the front side of the fork leg. Hope this info is helpful.
When I say Jack I am referring to the scissor type jack that Kawasaki specifies in the service manual. I will get a spool stand for the rear, but am hoping to use a bottle jack with platform to raise the front of the bike and will support it with blocks once it is up. I want to know where the 2 "L" shaped lift supports on the kawi recommended scissor jack set up are placed to support the bike.
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When you say jack are you talking about a hydraulic type jack or jack stands? If jack stands,which I prefer. I suggest installing stand spools on the swing arm. Lift the rear with rear stand first then lift the front with front stand. It makes it easier, if some one holds the bike upright for you, while you lift the rear. Once the rear is lifted, the bike is stable. When lifting the front of the bike, one prong goes under the bottom of the fork leg, and the other prong rest on the front side of the fork leg. Hope this info is helpful.
I can't help you with your question, but need to comment on the quote above. That is the correct order, rear stand first, then front stand. What is critical is that when you take it down you MUST take out the front stand first, then the rear stand. If not and you remove the rear first, the front can twist and the bike will fall over.

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Chuck is CORRECT - NEVER try just a front stand as you WILL end up w/ your bike on the ground on its side, or WORSE - ON YOU!

TWO stands - rear first IN, last OUT,

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I do believe that the Gen III is different than the previous two, however, on the GEN III there is a flat spot on the engine aft of the oil filter. It's the place I put my bottle jack to raise the front end. Works good.
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I made a upside down "T" out of 1" / 4" wood about 3"'s long. I adapted it to a floor jack. The top parts fits between the pipes and rests on the flat spot behind the oil filter. The pipes help to stabilize it. I only use this after lifting the rear by the spools on the swing arm with a Pit Bill lifting tool and locking it in place. I agree with the rest, never lift the front without first securing the rear.
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Thanks that is the info I was looking for. What you describe, seems to make sense looking at the kawi jack and adapter picture. I agree with the other posts on the rear stand too.

Do you need to remove the lower plastic cowling with you set up?

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I have the HF aluminum rear stand, works fine for lubing the chain or removing rear tire. However when I tried to jack up the bike using the flat spot on the engine it was VERY unstable. Too much flex in the rear stand jack the aluminum structure it pretty light weight.

I have ordered a venom triple tree stand for the front. I will post back to let you know how it works out with the HF rear stand.

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My questions are this.

A) Where exactly should the jack be placed to support the bike? i.e. I did not see anywhere obvious by taking a quick look under the bike.

B) The manual dies not indicate the rear wheel needs to be raised prior to using a jack to raise the front wheel. Is is OK to just put it in gear when using a jack to raise the front of the bike or is a rear stand required?

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A) the forward part of the muffler, the way I do it, but I also use tie-downs from the handle-bars to the ceiling as a JUST-IN-CASE;



B) No. It WILL fall doing this.

I use a bit of 2 x 6 on top of my jack, to FIT under my muffler.





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...Do you need to remove the lower plastic cowling with you set up?...JoH
NOT in my experience.

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I have the HF aluminum rear stand, works fine for lubing the chain or removing rear tire. However when I tried to jack up the bike using the flat spot on the engine it was VERY unstable. Too much flex in the rear stand jack the aluminum structure it pretty light weight....JoH
WHEN I greased the swingarm I started w/ the rear H-F stand under my spools, then put the front stand under my forks (I would have used the bit that goes into the lower triple-tree IF I was removing the front wheel), then used the wood-bit I show above under the front part of the muffler, then raise it till the spools JUST lift off the H-F stand



and removed the swingarm. THEN I take the 'slack' out of the tie-downs so they're 'snug', then remove it, etc. As you can see, the tie-downs are used in the REAR when the swingarm's the thing you're removing...!


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Fast Eddie,

Some food for thought there. Hope your garage door opener is really well anchored! I may look at adding a couple of hooks to my garage ceiling for some straps when it comes time to grease the swing arm.
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