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Dual Sport Tyre Size

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I am looking to make a trip up to the himalayas and maybe Kishtwar which is the world's deadliest road

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I am in India, and we have no access to quality dual sport tyres for 17 inch wheels here (forget about the right profile sizes).

I have managed to find Vee Rubber VRM 163 tyres. However, they only have the 130/80/17 size available.

I checked online over on a tyre size calculator and this is what I get for the rear: https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc...0r17-130-80r17

and for the Front: https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc...0r17-130-80r17

Doesnt seem too bad. I understand that I will need to raise the front fender. Is that all?

Anything else I need to be aware of? I will be doing a lot of offroad in the mountains. There's a considerable stretch of freeway to reach the mountains, but I guess I'll take things easy until I reach (120-130 kph). No rains on the freeways predicted, so I am not worried about wet weather tarmac riding with these tyre either.

So?

PS: The only other Dual Sport available in India is from Heidenau and they cost 500$ for the pair. NO.

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Try and get the Vee Rubber VRM 401 dual sport tyres - VRM-401 - Vee Rubber| vehicle tires
They say they are a 40:60 - road : off road tyre

The 130/80x17 should fit the front when raising the front mudguard
The 150/70x17 will fit the rear OK




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Hello,

I am looking to make a trip up to the himalayas and maybe Kishtwar which is the world's deadliest road

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I am in India, and we have no access to quality dual sport tyres for 17 inch wheels here (forget about the right profile sizes).

I have managed to find Vee Rubber VRM 163 tyres. However, they only have the 130/80/17 size available.

I checked online over on a tyre size calculator and this is what I get for the rear: https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc...0r17-130-80r17

and for the Front: https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc...0r17-130-80r17

Doesnt seem too bad. I understand that I will need to raise the front fender. Is that all?

Anything else I need to be aware of? I will be doing a lot of offroad in the mountains. There's a considerable stretch of freeway to reach the mountains, but I guess I'll take things easy until I reach (120-130 kph). No rains on the freeways predicted, so I am not worried about wet weather tarmac riding with these tyre either.

So?

PS: The only other Dual Sport available in India is from Heidenau and they cost 500$ for the pair. NO.
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...Doesnt seem too bad. I understand that I will need to raise the front fender. Is that all?

Anything else I need to be aware of?...
I have run Metzler Tourances (and presently Shinko E705s) in 130/80-17 on the front (a rear tire), and 150/70-17 on the rear. As well as raising your front fender, it will take you an hour or so to get used to the feeling from the 130/80 as it (INITIALLY) felt as tho' it wouldn't turn, but shortly you don't even notice it being different. Here are two threads I posted about the issue:

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ear-front.html

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ger-tires.html

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Try and get the Vee Rubber VRM 401 dual sport tyres
The 130/80x17 should fit the front when raising the front mudguard
The 150/70x17 will fit the rear OK


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Richard, thank you.

However, we don't get the VRM 401 here. Only the VRM 163 and 193 are available.

150 dual sport tyres not available. Only the 130/80/17 and the 140/70/17.

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None of these bikes are sold in India. I wish I could afford another motorcycle for escapades like these, but I don't think I can in the short-medium term.

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I have run Metzler Tourances (and presently Shinko E705s) in 130/80-17 on the front (a rear tire), and 150/70-17 on the rear. As well as raising your front fender, it will take you an hour or so to get used to the feeling from the 130/80 as it (INITIALLY) felt as tho' it wouldn't turn, but shortly you don't even notice it being different. Here are two threads I posted about the issue:

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ear-front.html

http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums...ger-tires.html
Eddie, thanks. So I see that the front can go with the 130/80. Do I have to change the brake lines and such or can I get away with just sizing up the front fender with a longer bracket? I have a 2016 V.

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I can't find a 150 size dual sport tyre in India for the rear. I either probably have the choice of a 140/70/17 or a 130/80/17. I currently ride with a 150/60/17 Michelin Pilot Street on the rear, which has done just fine the past 8,000 kms.

But I wonder if I go down further in width in the rear - will I have any problems? Will the tyre unseat itself off the rim? Changing the rim is not an option for me.
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The Versys will ride a lot smoother off road and at sub highway speeds with less compression on the springs and perhaps less rebound. Bottoming out this bike is very difficult with the travel it has.
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...Eddie, thanks. So I see that the front can go with the 130/80. Do I have to change the brake lines and such or can I get away with just sizing up the front fender with a longer bracket? I have a 2016 V....
I didn't raise the front fender on my Gen 3 650 (a '15) because of possible issues w/ the ABS lines - I didn't "want to go there"... so I'm running a 120/70 on it.

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...Bottoming out this bike is very difficult with the travel it has.
Which I HAVE done, riding in AZ, tho' "standing on the 'pegs" makes it quite a bit harder to do.

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I didn't raise the front fender on my Gen 3 650 (a '15) because of possible issues w/ the ABS lines - I didn't "want to go there"... so I'm running a 120/70 on it.


There's a guy in Thailand who runs a V who did this, and he hasn't raised the brake lines on the front.

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However, he also mentions: If you do raise the fender, bare in min the brake hoses will not fit in their clamps. If you force them, the fencder will bend back into the tire nubs. However, they will sit nicely and securely on the fender itsellf.

So what he means is just leave the brake lines sitting on the fender without the clamps?
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Quick shout out again - Can I get away with a 140/70/17 on the rear rim?

I don't have any other dual sport option tyres where I live. I use a 150/60/17 street tyre at the moment on the rear.
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I just checked, and it requires "140/70-17, 3.50 - 4.50 rim" according to GOOGLE, and as our rear rims are 4.5 (in my SERVICE MANUAL) you should be fine, but it might not last TOO long.

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