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Years ago I spent several hours over a few days setting the headlights on both of my Gen 1s. I've also done some work on my Gen 3, but can't say that I'm as happy w/ its lights as I am w/ the '08s. I try to NOT ride at night, but had to (on my '08) for a meeting Wednesday night, which is why I'm starting this thread.

PROPERLY set-up, I get VERY good coverage on LOW-BEAM that seems to cover somewhat MORE than 90 degrees laterally (I can see both ditches, as well as 'critters' in them, quite well, probably as close as 15 to 20 yards ahead) w/ a sharp "cut-off" just below the rear-window on vehicles I'm following, as well as VG distance coverage. When I go to HIGH-BEAM it seems to 'drill' a circle at the center of the "cut-off" w/ about 1/3 ABOVE the "cut-off", so gives me a fairly long view of the road. The light (stock H7 bulbs) is very "full" through-out.

Now for the Gen 3: [The following is by recollection, as I haven't ridden the Gen 3 at night for about 3 months.] The lateral parts of its low-beam appear to have several distinctly separate portions, probably as a result of the headlight 'lens' itself having 'creases' (for want of a better word...) much like the old round headlights that cars had, and I do NOT have the same 'sense' that the coverage is as good, or as extensive as on my '08, on which the headlight 'lens' is clear plastic, w/ NO 'creases'.

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Interesting thread eddie. We just paid a deposit for a building lot out of town, so I've been considering how the short commute will go once I'm riding outside of the city. I'm a shift worker, so alot of my work rides are in the dark.

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I couldn't stand the poor light from OEM headlights....
here are 2 photos wit ONE projector HID, totally dark road.
Now I have the second balast, I can hardly wait to see them both in action.....in the spring
HID projector has a much wider "pattern", covering almost 180.
I love riding at night!
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what I found throughout the years:

a) best way to adjust is by aiming a tad too high, ride (sitting, luggage and wind effect), and modulate the front brake to dive the fork and view the center spot moving on the road to find your favorite depth. Adjust until you don't have to hit the brake to have your chosen angle.

b) too much light is blinding myself. depending on how new/reflecting is the road signage, I might ride on low beams! I will never use HID (mostly illegal anyway, and I'm not that much of a prick). Entirely satisfied with sylverstar ultra II.

c) it's never been about surrounding light, always been about how deep ahead I can reach. If I needed flood lights, I would get an aux kit.
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Interesting thread eddie. We just paid a deposit for a building lot out of town, so I've been considering how the short commute will go once I'm riding outside of the city. I'm a shift worker, so alot of my work rides are in the dark.
I try NOT to ride at night, but IF it's necessary - I have no qualms about riding the '08....

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I don't use HID in a halogen reflector, I installed 2 projectors that put the light exactly where it's needed.... on the road.
This is not the cheap chinese HID that you install in your halogen mirror and puts the light all over the place

here is the cutoff and second photo is on the road, you can clearly see where the light goes, I never had somebody flashing me because of the lights.
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I found this comparison between HID in a halogen mirror and a HID projector....it speaks volumes
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Sorry to hijack your thread Eddie, I won't post anything again

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With one low and one high beam bulb you can never get the night time illumination you get in a car, even if you upgrade to extra bright bulbs. I found the best solution was to add some aux LED lights. These put out enormous amounts of light connected to the high beam circuit and draw very little power. Very happy with the result. I bought these off of AliExpress for $90 for the pair. A Denali mount for the bike cost $40 used. The addition was well worth it for riding at night in areas with no street illumination. Lots of threads on this site on "aux lights".
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chid - keep it up - you did NOT "hijack" my thread...!


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Here is what mine looks like. with PIAA led driving lights and Rigid long range night killers. I also am running the Silvania h7 bulbs.


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Here is what mine looks like. with PIAA led driving lights and Rigid long range night killers. I also am running the Silvania h7 bulbs.

Please don't run those with oncoming traffic, you are blinding other road users.
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...PROPERLY set-up, I get VERY good coverage on LOW-BEAM that seems to cover somewhat MORE than 90 degrees laterally (I can see both ditches, as well as 'critters' in them, quite well, probably as close as 15 to 20 yards ahead)....
Rode the other night, so I will change the ABOVE line to:

(I can see both ditches, as well as 'critters' in them, quite well, probably as close as 2 or 3 yards ahead!)

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