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I understand there always to be a little noise when straddling an engine and transmission, but mine gets pretty loud under light load around 52-57 mph, it increases and gets higher pitched as speed increases, eventually the surrounding noise, road, air flow, etc.. drowns it out. Shifts fine, zero issues. I researched this topic and it seems just about all of them have it, but some its barely noticeable and others sound like mine, which is a jet engine taking off. Running mobil synthetic oil, about 5750 miles now, oil just changed about 200 miles ago. Pretty much been this way since day one. Any ideas or cause for concern or is it just the way this tranny works? Oh, Stock factory sprockets, chain in good shape and properly lubed.
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Farris reporting in as requested. The noobie here, so just a SWAG. Maybe chain/sprocket noise even though completely lubed? I think with spinning gears, sprockets, chains there are noises that come out particularly noticeable at certain speeds or rpm's. I wear ear plugs all the time, so I don't hear most of them. Thought this needed a bump so some of the long time members get to chime in. Good Luck.

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It just aint broken in yet.
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Farris reporting in as requested. The noobie here, so just a SWAG. Maybe chain/sprocket noise even though completely lubed? I think with spinning gears, sprockets, chains there are noises that come out particularly noticeable at certain speeds or rpm's. I wear ear plugs all the time, so I don't hear most of them. Thought this needed a bump so some of the long time members get to chime in. Good Luck.
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I know Eddie and others besides yourself wear earplugs, I have never gone that route for fear of getting too separated from the noises around me. But, I have been contemplating it lately. Maybe it is time to step up!
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It just aint broken in yet.
So it will improve as it gets more miles on it then? Just a noisy tranny compared to other bikes I've spent/spend time on. BUT, it seems to work and shift flawlessly so I was kind of hoping someone would give some reassurance like you did!
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Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W-40?

Make sure your rear sprocket is aligned with the front, with a straight edge or Motion Pro alignment tool on rear sprocket. Was your chain slack checked with rear suspension fully extended?
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Yea I got the chain adjusted properly and have the Motion Pro tool. I bought it after reading on here how far the off the ticks can be and was shocked when I finally got it dialed in.

I run 30wt Mobil 1 (auto) I have been thinking of going up in WT as that may help dampen it a bit more.. So thats a Possibility.

Scratch that I think Im using 15-50.. I had it for my Buell.
Geesh I cant remember, and I just changed it last weekend.. Damn Im getting old.
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EARPLUGS - I have TWO hearing aids, mostly from military noise exposure, worth about $6,000 CDN, so I try to protect what hearing remains, by using earplugs ALL the time I'm riding. W/ them IN, I still am able to hear surrounding traffic sounds, so I recommend you go that route.

BTW - I will NOT listen to music while I ride....
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I have a noticeable whine in third gear, all the others are quiet. I was indoctrinated young about hearing protection in USN - helicopters and jets.

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I was outta line on that. I typed it, decided not to post it, big fingers and touch pad..... Deleted it too late after I saw it posted. We will all be a happier lot if I keep my comments to myself and use this board for the good resource it is. Seeya in AZ.
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I was outta line on that. I typed it, decided not to post it, big fingers and touch pad..... Deleted it too late after I saw it posted. We will all be a happier lot if I keep my comments to myself and use this board for the good resource it is. Seeya in AZ.
There used to be some pretty petty arguments around here at times as typical when a bunch of enthusiast get together in one setting. Eddy and JD are to great informative contributors here that kick each other occasionally as friends should. Glad you decided to stick around and thanks for contributing.

Subject at hand. I can find no logical reason for the gear box whining. I will just chalk it up to it being the character of the bike. Fresh 50 wt synthetic. Chain and sprockets properly aligned and adjusted. No worries!
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Yea, it shifts pretty decent.. I think Im good and possibly it will get a bit better with miles!
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I understand there always to be a little noise when straddling an engine and transmission, but mine gets pretty loud under light load around 52-57 mph, it increases and gets higher pitched as speed increases, eventually the surrounding noise, road, air flow, etc.. drowns it out. Shifts fine, zero issues. I researched this topic and it seems just about all of them have it, but some its barely noticeable and others sound like mine, which is a jet engine taking off. Running mobil synthetic oil, about 5750 miles now, oil just changed about 200 miles ago. Pretty much been this way since day one. Any ideas or cause for concern or is it just the way this tranny works? Oh, Stock factory sprockets, chain in good shape and properly lubed.
Have you replaced your front tire? The stock Dunlop front cupped rapidly and created a major amount of front tire noise. I don't know how you could hear anything other than the tire if you haven't changed your front yet. I changed mine when it still had quite a bit of tread left because I couldn't stand the noise. I replaced it with a Michelin PR4 and now it is silent bliss. I think that my 2015 Versys 650 is the most silent motorcycle I have owned yet. I do not hear any noise from the transmission.
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Have you replaced your front tire? The stock Dunlop front cupped rapidly and created a major amount of front tire noise. I don't know how you could hear anything other than the tire if you haven't changed your front yet. I changed mine when it still had quite a bit of tread left because I couldn't stand the noise. I replaced it with a Michelin PR4 and now it is silent bliss. I think that my 2015 Versys 650 is the most silent motorcycle I have owned yet. I do not hear any noise from the transmission.
I have not replaced the front tire, It still has some life left on it at this point, though the rear will need replaced in the next 500 miles or so probably. The sound is made primarily under load and goes away if I pull in the clutch and coast, so I would assume it not to be the tire, but one never knows do they?
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I have not replaced the front tire, It still has some life left on it at this point, though the rear will need replaced in the next 500 miles or so probably. The sound is made primarily under load and goes away if I pull in the clutch and coast, so I would assume it not to be the tire, but one never knows do they?
The tire would be making racket whenever you were moving. If the noise is primarily under load, the most likely candidate is the chain and sprockets. I lubricate my chain every 500 miles or less with Dupont chain lube. I always lubricate it immediately after riding in the rain - I have found that rain will wash the lubricant off and cause the chain to rapidly corrode. I have only adjusted my chain once since replacing the rear sprocket with a 43 tooth and cutting two links out of the chain. I have about 7,000 miles on my bike now.

Lift your rear tire and rotate it. It should spin freely and silently. If not, you have your problem. If you have it on the stand, you can start it and accelerate through the gears when you are checking for noise.
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Chain is lubed and adjusted properly I use Motul chain paste and a motion pro alignment tool. Im just chalking it up to bike character at this point I suppose.
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Do you have at least 1.4" of chain slack at its tightest rotating position, with rear suspension fully extended?
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Do you have at least 1.4" of chain slack at its tightest rotating position, with rear suspension fully extended?
Yes if anything it's a tad in loose side but I'll double check tomorrow.
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