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Had a freaky deaky dutch situation during oil change (YIKES)

I was changing the oil on my 2016 Versys 1000 when this happened. This was the 3rd oil change. The 1st two were uneventful. The 3rd one went as usual UNTIL this; warm up engine real well, drop oil, drop filter, let drain, install filter, replace crush washer and drain plug, fill with oil. All well at this point. I did put some oil in new filter but didn't top it off. When I started it the RED indicator light didn't turn off as it usually does in 2-3 seconds. I shut it down. Waited a minute. Started again. Light still wouldn't go out. What the F____K? I removed the oil filter and there was no oil present? I started it for 1-2 seconds and oil started to flow at oil filter location. I shut it down, filled filter to the top, screwed it on quickly, restarted engine, LIGHT WENT OUT. Put heart back in mouth and regrouped from my state of panic. Never had seen anything like this with any other bike I've owned? Anyway all seems well and tragedy averted. What did I learn? For now on and ever more I will FULLY PRE-FILL the oil filter before starting an engine with a fresh oil change. I never want to experience that again!!! Kind of a heads up for all!

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I know on some bikes .Part of the oil change procedure is to burp the bike.I wonder when you took off the filter it did it.
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I know on some bikes .Part of the oil change procedure is to burp the bike.I wonder when you took off the filter it did it.
Having done motorcycle oil changes for the last 40 years or so, this "burp" procedure was something new to me. I first read about it over on the British V1k site. Anyway, I've never done it and am not even sure I know how, but I always prefill the oil filter before I screw it on and I've never had a problem. I've done 5 oil changes on my V1k now.
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Having done motorcycle oil changes for the last 40 years or so, this "burp" procedure was something new to me. I first read about it over on the British V1k site. Anyway, I've never done it and am not even sure I know how, but I always prefill the oil filter before I screw it on and I've never had a problem. I've done 5 oil changes on my V1k now.
I also never had a problem with all the oil changes I have done through the years.But I know on a sportster I owned it was a recommended
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Funny, I've never put oil in an oil filter and have never had an issue. Just did the oil and filter change on the 1000.

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Funny, I've never put oil in an oil filter and have never had an issue. Just did the oil and filter change on the 1000.
It will eventually get there. The light will just stay on longer. No big deal. It's not like there's not oil in the engine. Just takes it a little longer to pressurize.
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Well after reading all these responses I have come to the conclusion that if the oil filter isn't pre-filled there is a greater chance that it will take longer for the engine to pressurize and the oil indicator light to turn off. I like it turn off quickly so fill it I will. Thanks for the help.

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Don't fill your filter to the top, or you'll just be wiping a lot of oil off your floor from it leaking out as you tilt the filter to thread it in....

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Don't fill your filter to the top, or you'll just be wiping a lot of oil off your floor from it leaking out as you tilt the filter to thread it in....

How about 3/4 full? I don't ever want to see that RED light on again!

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How about 3/4 full? I don't ever want to see that RED light on again!
I don't know if it is as much as filling the filter.I think when you removed your filter you got the air pocket out. Check out this old Kawasaki thread.
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Excellent. I feel better knowing I'm not the only one with this issue! Thanks

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Hmmm. I never put oil in a new filter prior to installation. Not on a motorcycle or a car. Never heard of such.
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Hmmm. I never put oil in a new filter prior to installation. Not on a motorcycle or a car. Never heard of such.
i always have, i dont fill the filter but i pour some into the filter (1/2 full or so) and rub some on the gasket/O-ring to help it seat without binding

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Yes it does help to have the oil filter half filled... You can actually pour oil in filter up to the top, and let the pleats soak it up. It does take a while for all the filtering media to absorb oil and release the air, so give it some time. The filter can then be about half full with all the pleats soaked up, and you can tilt it to install without a mess.

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Hmmm. I never put oil in a new filter prior to installation. Not on a motorcycle or a car. Never heard of such.
Been doing this to my filters since the "Dawn of Time".... (I'm pretty OLD.) PROBABLY read about doing it in HOT ROD or CAR CRAFT magazine.

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i always have, i dont fill the filter but i pour some into the filter (1/2 full or so) and rub some on the gasket/O-ring to help it seat without binding
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Yes it does help to have the oil filter half filled... You can actually pour oil in filter up to the top, and let the pleats soak it up. It does take a while for all the filtering media to absorb oil and release the air, so give it some time. The filter can then be about half full with all the pleats soaked up, and you can tilt it to install without a mess.
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