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Installing new Shinko 705's and aux lights, or "how to be stupid."

I was going to order Shinko 009's, but decided instead I'd do 705's, cool, cool. There was that thread the other day with people showing their 705's and I liked it so I put a ring on it. This is the thread in question.

I went ahead and ordered 150 / 70 back, 130 / 80 front, didn't think much about it because lots of people seem to do that on the V.

Anyway, I ordered the tires from bikebandit.com like last wednesday, free shipping, expecting them to take like a week. They were there THURSDAY when I got home from work. Woot.

Yanked the wheels and compared them...and oh hell...that 130 is WAY the hell bigger than the old one. Found a guy to mount new rubber for $10/wheel and brought them home, realized I'd need to raise the front fender. THAT'S a google search I wish I had known to do in advance, lol. I saw a thread where someone was talking about just using the upper hole to on the bracket for the lower hole on the fender...but that won't work because A) I'm lowered and B) I don't have a brake line or access to a brake line that will fit in this condition.

I didn't like anything I saw, so I went and bought a section of 1/2"x3/4"x4' aluminum L and brought it home. Little bit of measuring and drilling and it's attached 2x on each side, through the reflector bolt and the original fender bolt, then drilled again about an inch higher with another bolt and a lock nut. Super secure, the brake line fits over the fender but not through its bracket, so there's a cable tie there now for extra security.

I was SERIOUSLY intimidated by the shoulder on the new tires. BIG change.

So then I installed my aux lights, maybe I should always drink bloody mary's in 95 degree heat because the went together AWESOMELY and EASILY, horray Chinese lights.

Went for my scuff ride and determined quickly that I should NOT drink Bloody Mary's in 95 degree heat while doing bike maintenance because there was an ugly clunk in the front end, I thought maybe it was the fender hitting the wheel, but if anything it has MORE clearance now...so I went home. (No I wasn't even close to drunk, I spilled the stupid bloody mary on my boat.)

Turns out I had forgotten to torque down the caliper bolts...what an idiot. Fixed that and all is well. The bike feels completely different now, cornering is like heavy, that's the only way I can think to describe it. I like it, managed to get about 30 miles in and will do more tomorrow. They're certainly a lot more grippy, did some gravel for fun and was very impressed.

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Wow those lights look good, can you post some more pictures of them and how you mounted them?

That tire looks like it will handle gravel really well!
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yeah the 130's are a heavy tire combined with the profile make for heavy steering input. it takes more conscious effort to turn in but once you are used to it its no big deal. I like that it helps stabilize the front end against road unevenness and against cross winds. however if I do the shinko up front again i'll use the new 120 instead of the 130.
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Wow those lights look good, can you post some more pictures of them and how you mounted them?

That tire looks like it will handle gravel really well!
Thanks dude. I will do that when I have a chance. In the interim, here are the lights. They're a little underwhelming up close but they throw a LOT of light far away.
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yeah the 130's are a heavy tire combined with the profile make for heavy steering input. it takes more conscious effort to turn in but once you are used to it its no big deal. I like that it helps stabilize the front end against road unevenness and against cross winds. however if I do the shinko up front again i'll use the new 120 instead of the 130.
FWIW - I run the 130/80 front in AZ as I've already raised the fender, but run the 120/70 here in BC because I haven't.

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I have the 120/90 on the front of mine instead of the 130/80 but feel very similarly about the front end feel on the road. It is a bit difficult to really feel much feedback from the tire and quiet heavy steering.
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I was going to order Shinko 009's, but decided instead I'd do 705's, cool, cool. There was that thread the other day with people showing their 705's and I liked it so I put a ring on it. This is the thread in question.

I went ahead and ordered 150 / 70 back, 130 / 80 front, didn't think much about it because lots of people seem to do that on the V.

Anyway, I ordered the tires from bikebandit.com like last wednesday, free shipping, expecting them to take like a week. They were there THURSDAY when I got home from work. Woot.

Yanked the wheels and compared them...and oh hell...that 130 is WAY the hell bigger than the old one. Found a guy to mount new rubber for $10/wheel and brought them home, realized I'd need to raise the front fender. THAT'S a google search I wish I had known to do in advance, lol. I saw a thread where someone was talking about just using the upper hole to on the bracket for the lower hole on the fender...but that won't work because A) I'm lowered and B) I don't have a brake line or access to a brake line that will fit in this condition.

I didn't like anything I saw, so I went and bought a section of 1/2"x3/4"x4' aluminum L and brought it home. Little bit of measuring and drilling and it's attached 2x on each side, through the reflector bolt and the original fender bolt, then drilled again about an inch higher with another bolt and a lock nut. Super secure, the brake line fits over the fender but not through its bracket, so there's a cable tie there now for extra security.

I was SERIOUSLY intimidated by the shoulder on the new tires. BIG change.

So then I installed my aux lights, maybe I should always drink bloody mary's in 95 degree heat because the went together AWESOMELY and EASILY, horray Chinese lights.

Went for my scuff ride and determined quickly that I should NOT drink Bloody Mary's in 95 degree heat while doing bike maintenance because there was an ugly clunk in the front end, I thought maybe it was the fender hitting the wheel, but if anything it has MORE clearance now...so I went home. (No I wasn't even close to drunk, I spilled the stupid bloody mary on my boat.)

Turns out I had forgotten to torque down the caliper bolts...what an idiot. Fixed that and all is well. The bike feels completely different now, cornering is like heavy, that's the only way I can think to describe it. I like it, managed to get about 30 miles in and will do more tomorrow. They're certainly a lot more grippy, did some gravel for fun and was very impressed.

Wondering if you have or can get some photos of the fender re-installation/raising?

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Wondering if you have or can get some photos of the fender re-installation/raising?
Oh...uh...I'll do my best? I don't want to take it back off but I can show you the aluminum piece and what it looks like up close. Really not much engineering involved---just used a hacksaw and a drill and a sharpie.
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Nice, measure with a micrometer, mark it with a crayon, cut it with a chainsaw...

BTW - really like the way that tire looks on the bike...
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Oh...uh...I'll do my best? I don't want to take it back off but I can show you the aluminum piece and what it looks like up close. Really not much engineering involved---just used a hacksaw and a drill and a sharpie.
Just some peeks at the actual installation if you can. No need to take things apart.

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No problem gents. I don't have her with me today, but I'll take them when I do!
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I have been running one on my 2008 for about a year. I love the way it handles, blacktop and gravel. Everyone that see's them assumes it would make the bike ride like a chuck-wagon, or steer "heavy", etc.

I like it just fine, and have made no observation of "heavy" dodgy, vagueness, nothing-- just seems like a great set-up. And it's apparent it is going to last a very long time, mine has about 6,500 miles on the front.

Still a hoot to ride in the twisties, I don't feel like I gave up anything, and the stability gains in sandy or gravel areas has been remarkable. It's like a snowshoe in front.

If you can raise the fender the equivalent of one set of holes, you will be in good shape. A fender-extender is just about mandatory, and works out real well in any regard.

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Fast imgur album, this doesn't really show much. I need to find the rest of the angle stock so I can show that. unstable_rider's build is far more classy than mine.
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You are too kind sir.

Closer forensic investigation yields that I took two thin pieces of aluminum flat-stock,
as I was too lazy to go to the hardware store that day a year or so ago to get proper aluminum stock. I used what I had laying around... initially a thinner bit of stock, and felt it was too flimsy. I doubled it up, it's two aluminum flats stacked together. Cripes, they are not even the same thickness as each other!

Totally cheeseball. But it's solid!~

You can make them with a drill, a pencil, a file and or some sandpaper. Basically they look like two large pop sickle sticks side by side.
It would have been better accomplished with one thicker bit of stock, but again- I used what I had.

I shot them with the same paint I used on the engine when I had it out, to tie it into a theme of sorts. Yeah, everyone knows that paint doesn't like to stick to aluminum, yet here we are a year later, and the paint and clear coat held up fine.

Glad to walk anyone through this if you don't follow what I did, or I can shoot some better pics.

Thanks for the likes/compliments!

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