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2011 Versys 650 Possible Clutch Problems

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I am new to the forum and am looking to purchase a 2011 Versys 650. I checked it out last weekend and have a few questions about the clutch. The first thing I noticed was it felt like it had little clutch. I did not feel it disengage the clutch until the last inch or so. The bike was warm already as the owner met me at a cycle shop. When I took off, I let out the clutch a little and it grabbed and lurched forward. I pulled it back in a little and let it out more slowly. Rode a short distance, it appeared to disengage the motor properly, I thought the transmission was a little clunky but after reading up on it that appears to be the norm. Much like my 04 Suzuki Bandit 1200.
When returning to the shop, we noticed the cable was adjusted out to the max. Owner will replace the cable. I felt a few other clutches as there were 3 other Versys sitting there. They all felt very smooth, almost like a hydraulic clutch where the one I want to purchase was not that smooth, could be due to the fact that I am at the end of the stroke of the clutch cable. It also felt much stiffer than the other bikes, could that be due to the lower miles, 30K Km vs 60K Km?
BTW, 30,000 kilometers on the bike and looks in excellent condition. Mostly long rides down by previous owner.
Do you think only the cable could be the problem for the feeling of the clutch? Could the surge in first gear be caused but the wear on the clutch basket or clutch plates or just the fact that I was at the end of the stroke due to the stretched cable?
I will check it out again after installing the new cable but welcome to any comments or suggestions.
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
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All of your symptoms are those of a loose clutch cable. There is a second adjuster at the other end of the cable. Follow the manual instructions and lube the cables, throttle as well.
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if the clutch cable is dry and unloved... then it will exhibit a rough and tight pull. It can also exhibit clutch grab as you dont really have smooth control of the engine.

A new Clutch Cable properly adjusted (or flush/lube/adjust the old one) will make it nice again.

mine is currently grabby (not smooth and slick to use) and due for a re-lube.
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Thank you all for your replies. That is what I was hoping. Owner will install new cable and I hope it is as smooth as on the other bikes I tried. Looking forward to a new bike. :-)
Again, thank you all I appreciate the help.
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A 'shot' of WD40 into the lever end of the cable does WONDERS for the clutch feel, and I suggest adjusting it so that the 'engagement-point' is closer to the bars (Kawi seems to set them up so the 'engagement-point' is quite FAR from the bars, which makes it ALMOST unable to engage).

I set my adjuster at about 1/4"....


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Hello everyone,
I am new to the forum and am looking to purchase a 2011 Versys 650. I checked it out last weekend and have a few questions about the clutch. The first thing I noticed was it felt like it had little clutch. I did not feel it disengage the clutch until the last inch or so. The bike was warm already as the owner met me at a cycle shop. When I took off, I let out the clutch a little and it grabbed and lurched forward. I pulled it back in a little and let it out more slowly. Rode a short distance, it appeared to disengage the motor properly, I thought the transmission was a little clunky but after reading up on it that appears to be the norm. Much like my 04 Suzuki Bandit 1200.
When returning to the shop, we noticed the cable was adjusted out to the max. Owner will replace the cable. I felt a few other clutches as there were 3 other Versys sitting there. They all felt very smooth, almost like a hydraulic clutch where the one I want to purchase was not that smooth, could be due to the fact that I am at the end of the stroke of the clutch cable. It also felt much stiffer than the other bikes, could that be due to the lower miles, 30K Km vs 60K Km?
BTW, 30,000 kilometers on the bike and looks in excellent condition. Mostly long rides down by previous owner.
Do you think only the cable could be the problem for the feeling of the clutch? Could the surge in first gear be caused but the wear on the clutch basket or clutch plates or just the fact that I was at the end of the stroke due to the stretched cable?
I will check it out again after installing the new cable but welcome to any comments or suggestions.
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
As the title suggests, what could cost a significant amount is valve shim check, my 07 was done by me just before I sold it @ 30,000 KM. It is very time consuming as 65% of the labour is removing and installing the body parts. Some have suggested that mechanics have said it was done, but when asked the only answer was they were in spec, also if you are quoted $200 to $250, that is just the bare bones check, if you have shims out of spec, expect to pay more than double that.
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Thanks, I forgot about valve shims. I will ask the owner when it was done previously. Good thing about living in Thailand is labor is cheap. I took my PCX150 in for the 14K check, took about 30 minutes. $12 including the oil. Done valves before on a few other bikes, I know the hassle to get it just to check them. Thanks for the advise.
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